Do you run Your Paladins as Idiots?

Bren · March 27, 2015, 11:16:05 AM

Quote from: Batman;822404I will say, though, that I have always hated the LG-only requirements and have been so happy 3.5, 4th, and now 5e has done away with them in the long run. If DMs want to enforce that in their campaigns, that's A-OK with me but don't force every DM to that via official rules.

The rules can't really force you. After all, the rules are like the Pirate's Code.

QuoteAnd thirdly, the Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules. Welcome aboard the Black Pearl, Miss Turner.

RPGPundit · March 29, 2015, 11:07:37 PM

I think it displays a stupid kind of modern cynicism that people think of paladins that way. As though the notion of someone being that virtuous has to mean they're either corrupt, intractable, or just stupid.

jeff37923 · March 29, 2015, 11:10:42 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;822766I think it displays a stupid kind of modern cynicism that people think of paladins that way. As though the notion of someone being that virtuous has to mean they're either corrupt, intractable, or just stupid.

Or just a modern cynicism of religion.

talysman · March 30, 2015, 03:36:02 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;822766I think it displays a stupid kind of modern cynicism that people think of paladins that way. As though the notion of someone being that virtuous has to mean they're either corrupt, intractable, or just stupid.

Blame cynical modern writers. Or even some of the non-cynical ones.

I was thinking earlier today about how 19th and early 20th century writers like Tennyson and T H White stuck somewhat to the idea that the Knights of the Round Table were intended to be models of virtue, even if few knights could maintain a virtuous path for long. Then we lesser writers and Hollywood getting obsessed with the love triangle because DRAMA, and the gritty reaiists, and the grimdark retellings. By now, everyone just sees knights as yet another loner action hero. They think Rambo and Rorschach are paladins, because they won't give an inch. Hey, uncompromising zeal is basically the same thing as chivalry, right?

RPGPundit · March 31, 2015, 04:04:09 AM

Quote from: jeff37923;822769Or just a modern cynicism of religion.

I think it goes beyond religion, though certainly that can be a part of it. I think its the post-modernism problem rearing its ugly head again, where if there's nothing that's actually True, then anyone who stands for some kind of Truth is either a monster, a hypocrite, or a deluded idiot.
Just as to the baby-boomer relativist paradigm Authority implies Illegitimacy, any kind of actual convictions implies hypocrisy.

Do you run Your Paladins as Idiots?

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