acording to 3e dieties and demigods tiamat is colossal i would have expected colossal+ but eh

bahamut is also colossal

Quote from: Justin Alexander;819639She appears to be essentially the same size as my Huge 3.5 Dragon miniatures. Maybe my conception of Tiamat is just out-of-sync with the current edition, but she's the Mother of Evil Dragons. I conceive of her as being very, very large.

If she was Kaladrax-sized I'd consider her a little on the small side, but not ant-proportioned.

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She's bigger than any of my other dragons, including new ones like Cinder, which is all that matters to me.  And as I mentioned, any bigger and she would be pretty much non functional on the game table.

But in all fairness, I admit my perspective may be biased and skewed, because I grew up with Ral Parth and Grenadier dragon minis, which were much smaller than the newer plastic stuff.

i suppose with the decresed focus on the grid in this edition it does not really matter so much if somethings the wrong size

Tiamat should be the size of a My Fair Lady hat, possibly a Beach Blanket Babylon hat in her own planar domain.

wait since when does she get bigger there

i just had an idea if you could trick tiamat into having some sort of size increasing spell cast on her while in her cave the whole thing would shatter as she got to big for it throwing bones all over the layer and the path to the layer below it

I have trouble believing that there are enough spelljammer fans for WoTC to really be concerned about them.

even if it is a tiny amount it would have to be more then the people bothered by the pandering so its a question of how much work they put into the decision if it was just a sudden idea i could understand it a conscious effort that they spent time to think up not so much

i hope this time around they remember that faerun is not the only planet with an underdark

Quote from: RPGPundit;820201I have trouble believing that there are enough spelljammer fans for WoTC to really be concerned about them.

I would definitely buy a Spelljammer 5E reboot. But if they don't do that, then I'm not gonna be that concerned either.

Quote from: danskmacabre;820812I would definitely buy a Spelljammer 5E reboot. But if they don't do that, then I'm not gonna be that concerned either.

I'd be a lot more interested in something like that if it wasn't a straight remake, and instead was a new concept/setting that took some inspiration from Spelljammer, some original stuff, and some from the Princess Ark stuff from Mystara.

Quote from: tuypo1;819785i suppose with the decresed focus on the grid in this edition it does not really matter so much if somethings the wrong size

So my question would be why people buy the dragon minis from whizz kids for $60 when you can buy papo or schleich dragons for 25

Quote from: RPGPundit;820201I have trouble believing that there are enough spelljammer fans for WoTC to really be concerned about them.

True enough, but I'd say the same about some of the other more obscure D&D settings (is there really that much of a Birthright fanbase, for instance?) and yet the 5E DMG not only goes out of its way to mention every single Prime Material world that TSR or Wizards has published but also make sure to cite Sigil as a nod to the Planescape fans and hasn't said anything to outright contradict Spelljammer.

I suspect there is an official policy of No Pissing In The Cheerios in terms of statements made about old settings - it doesn't matter whether a particular setting's fanbase is particularly large, and it certainly doesn't matter whether or not Wizards intend to actually support a particular setting (I personally wouldn't hold my breath waiting for new Mystara material, for instance), but at the same time "Repair Lost Goodwill" is such an important part of 5E's mission that it isn't worth kicking off a fuss by specifically unmaking any of the campaign settings.

Plus, of course, anything that drives dndclassics sales by piquing people's curiosity can't hurt either.

On the main topic: I seem to remember we were told that we'd be getting a) some clarity on licensing arrangements and b) past edition conversion guidelines around about now. Any sign of them on the horizon?

yeah theres no reason to piss over the old settings not only will it hurt them but it can only help them to mention it

but really if they want to drive d&d classics sales they should MAKE THE FUCKING LINK ON THERE WEBSITE MORE PROMINENT

on the matter of sigil im bracing myself for a whole new wave of waaaah we want a stated lady of pain because we dont care about things making sense waaaaa

it will be an interesting sight

Quote from: RPGPundit;821096I'd be a lot more interested in something like that if it wasn't a straight remake, and instead was a new concept/setting that took some inspiration from Spelljammer, some original stuff, and some from the Princess Ark stuff from Mystara.

I'd be perfectly happy with this. And I'm a pretty big Spelljammer fan. Took me years to actually crack it open, I thought the concept was silly. But after a night of binge drinking, I pulled it off my shelf and said WTH... and squeezed a 3-year campaign out of it. I highly recommend 'Under the Dark Fist' - possibly one of the largest scoped campaign scenarios ever. It's like Star Wars and the Republic is Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and the Realms united against over a dozen other undiscovered campaign settings under the rule of one tyrant Emperor.

I had members of the Scarlet Brotherhood, teamed up with Knights of Solamnia, and tribes of cursing Hadozee, and Imperial Elves, and even some renegade Illithid - yeah it's gonzo... but epic as all hell. Felt very Star Wars... yet still D&D.

Quote from: RPGPundit;820201I have trouble believing that there are enough spelljammer fans for WoTC to really be concerned about them.

Spelljammer still has quite a fanbase. They even made a module for Neverwinter with custom ship models. I have the alpha of it and it was fairly neet in how they pulled it off.

Hard to say if WOTC will do it again. The magazine reboot for 3e got mostly negative reactions. And I do not recall any mention of Spelljammer in any of the 5e core book text.

They may try another Gamma World. But after the botch of the last one thats pretty iffy too.