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5e - There IS treasure, right?

Started by mcbobbo, August 29, 2014, 02:36:00 PM

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mcbobbo

August 29, 2014, 02:36:00 PM
In doing my monster stat conversion work, I noticed something a bit odd: no treasure.

Okay, so maybe it's in a chapter of the Basic DMs guide?  Yeah, doesn't look like it.

So... what gives?
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Sacrosanct

#1
August 29, 2014, 02:44:05 PM
Treasure will be in the DMG.  I imagine the basic rules will also be updated to reflect this when the DMG comes out, just like the bestiary was updated.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Bill

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August 29, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
World of No Treasure.

Long ago, the Dwarven race built the first civilization, and were overcome by their genetic lust for gold. Vast numbers of Dwarves scoured the world, gathering every last coin and object of value. Armies of Dwarves immediately seize anything of value from all other races. All wealth is forever sealed away in impregnable dwarven vaults no one can ever find.

Player's cannot be Dwarven, unless an outcast forever barred from Dwarven society.

Arkansan

#3
August 29, 2014, 04:22:02 PM
Damn I hadn't even noticed. Shouldn't be that hard to wing it for a while. I believe there is some in the starter set adventure, haven't really looked through it yet though.

Novastar

#4
August 29, 2014, 04:28:27 PM
The Starter Set has a couple of items, but yeah, so far no gallery of magical items.
Quote from: dragoner;776244Mechanical character builds remind me of something like picking the shoe in monopoly, it isn\'t what I play rpg\'s for.

Bill

#5
August 29, 2014, 04:30:08 PM
I think most of the items from 1E/2E would be usable.

Sacrosanct

#6
August 29, 2014, 04:31:37 PM
Quote from: Bill;783711I think most of the items from 1E/2E would be usable.

provided you scale down the "+" quite a bit.  In 5e, a +2 weapon is very rare and a +3 legendary is the best you could ever get.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Bill

#7
August 29, 2014, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;783712provided you scale down the "+" quite a bit.  In 5e, a +2 weapon is very rare and a +3 legendary is the best you could ever get.

It would be fairly easy to keep the pluses low, or only have the higher pluses on damage.

A +3 Holy Avenger 1E style is still amazing.

mcbobbo

#8
August 29, 2014, 04:56:19 PM
Magic items are one thing, but I was honestly just thinking about coins and the like.  Did the relative value of a GP change, for example?
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Kravell

#9
August 29, 2014, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: mcbobbo;783720Magic items are one thing, but I was honestly just thinking about coins and the like.  Did the relative value of a GP change, for example?

The playtest had suggested treasure tables so I expect to see that in the DMG. You really could use an earlier edition for rolling coin/gems/art. For magic items, I'd say about one permanent one per 4 hour adventure for 4 PCs. PCs should end up with about 6 total each by 20th level.

Also, check this out for magic item info:
http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/events/magic-items-and-rewards-dd-adventurers-league

Omega

#10
August 29, 2014, 10:20:56 PM
At the back of the Basic DMG is a 2 page entry on magic items listed as a WIP.

But so far nothing on actually on doling out treasure to monsters.

Hoard of the Dragon Queen is fairly spartan too from a brief glance through.

Marleycat

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August 30, 2014, 12:14:49 AM
Quote from: mcbobbo;783691In doing my monster stat conversion work, I noticed something a bit odd: no treasure.

Okay, so maybe it's in a chapter of the Basic DMs guide?  Yeah, doesn't look like it.

So... what gives?

It's up to you.:)

But baseline magic items are rare and to be valued. Much closer to 2e than 3/4e in my opinion.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Marleycat

#12
August 30, 2014, 12:19:27 AM
Quote from: Bill;783713It would be fairly easy to keep the pluses low, or only have the higher pluses on damage.

A +3 Holy Avenger 1E style is still amazing.

Avenger"s are attuned weapons +1 to anybody but +3 with specials for a Paladin.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Marleycat

#13
August 30, 2014, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: mcbobbo;783720Magic items are one thing, but I was honestly just thinking about coins and the like.  Did the relative value of a GP change, for example?

They brought back electrum but it seems the same 10x scale is in play.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

David Johansen

#14
August 30, 2014, 01:29:49 AM
You know, if they cast all the gold into 60' statues of their kings like they did in a certain movie, your world will probably have to come off the gold standard.

Now, this board is known for its old school cred, so I'll be waiting for somebody to tell me how many GP that statue was made of and by extension how many CN it weighs.
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