Quote from: robiswrong;780587It's pretty explicitly aimed at younger gamers.

The examples may be targeted toward the Harry Potter/Spy Kids/Avatar crowd, but the rules read like talking to someone who has never played an RPG before.

Quote from: GameDaddy;780064Best Blog

Gold - Gnomestew

Quote from: CRKrueger;780398How in the name of the Sweet Baby Jesus is Fate Accelerated Edition a fucking "Family Game"?

These two really tell you all you need to know about the ENnies.

Quote from: CRKrueger;780398Well, the Ennies have now proven themselves completely irrelevant...

I haven't found the Ennies to be relevant in years.  Perhaps some people find them useful or relevant, but not me.

Quote from: flyerfan1991;780592The examples may be targeted toward the Harry Potter/Spy Kids/Avatar crowd, but the rules read like talking to someone who has never played an RPG before.

They read like someone who knows how RPGs work trying to explain to someone who hasn't played an RPG before a little too quickly, to be specific.

FATE Accelerated Edition is a good idea but it doesn't have enough examples or patience with the reader to be much use to anyone who is truly, genuinely new to RPGs. Hell, I've known experienced gamers to be profoundly confused by stuff in it, only to grok it better when they see the fuller explanations of concepts in FATE Core.

Quote from: The Butcher;780594These two really tell you all you need to know about the ENnies.

Still the Ennies give me a proper idea what games are popular at the moment. Mostly D&D and Pathfinder and Star Wars I guess.

Quote from: jan paparazzi;780700Still the Ennies give me a proper idea what games are popular at the moment. Mostly D&D and Pathfinder and Star Wars I guess.

More like Fate, Numenara and Pathfinder. Kudos to them, I suppose, but I'm a bit sad that publishers have to compete with bigger companies like Paizo. It would be nice if they had such a competition for smaller companies.

Every award has weird corner cases where an odd thing wins instead of what "should" have.  Heck, there's tons of stuff written about misfires in the Oscars over the years.  I agree FAE shouldn't have won Best Family Game, but I'm not going to stop paying attention to the awards because of it.  Besides, awards are fun.

But boy, you can feel the fanboy going on - as best as I can tell, Paizo didn't lose a single category they were nominated in, and by "didn't lose" I mean "took the gold".  

On the other hand, it was neat to see "Ken and Robin Talk about Stuff" get the gold for best podcast.  I really like their work, and just finished listening to their special 100th episode special.

(Seeing RPGGeek win best website was very odd.  I spend a fair bit of time on their sister site boardgamegeek, and although it's got some of the best info on the game, I have some trouble with the early 90's design.  But looking at the other finalists, I guess they were the best.)

Yeah, I confess that I'm a bit disappointed by the ENnie award results. Not because I didn't win anything - since I didn't really expect to have more than a slight chance at a Silver - but because the awards were so dominated by a small handful of companies or their respective brands.

All of the winners are good games, but so many other good games got crushed because the winners had so many more fans to vote for them.

I know, I know, it's a popularity contest and it's how the voting has always works, but it still bums me out a little.

Quote from: Mark Plemmons;780709Yeah, I confess that I'm a bit disappointed by the ENnie award results. Not because I didn't win anything - since I didn't really expect to have more than a slight chance at a Silver - but because the awards were so dominated by a small handful of companies or their respective brands.

All of the winners are good games, but so many other good games got crushed because the winners had so many more fans to vote for them.

I know, I know, it's a popularity contest and it's how the voting has always works, but it still bums me out a little.

That's how it always is. Lots of good products get overlooked by the shiny stuff.

Quote from: brettmb;780729That's how it always is. Lots of good products get overlooked by the shiny stuff.

True enough. This year seems a little more weighted in that direction than previous years (as I recall, and without research).

For this year, I did some figuring when I wrote my blog post comparing my ENnie predictions to the final voting. By my count, there were 44 individual gold and silver awards, of which 40 had a chance to be won by official or unofficial products supporting Fate, Numenera, Savage Worlds, or Pathfinder. They won 31 out of 40.

Quote from: jcfiala;780708EBut boy, you can feel the fanboy going on - as best as I can tell, Paizo didn't lose a single category they were nominated in, and by "didn't lose" I mean "took the gold".  

They must have gotten nervous, because I got an e-mail a couple of weeks ago from Paizo essentially begging people to vote for their entries.

Quote(Seeing RPGGeek win best website was very odd.  I spend a fair bit of time on their sister site boardgamegeek, and although it's got some of the best info on the game, I have some trouble with the early 90's design.  But looking at the other finalists, I guess they were the best.)

If you think the Geek is early 90s now, I remember when they first started up. It made Gopher look advanced, and that was early 2000s.

However, even ConsimWorld has improved their site, so I guess it's time for a more complete overhaul of the Geek.

Quote from: Mark Plemmons;780709Yeah, I confess that I'm a bit disappointed by the ENnie award results.

I know, I know, it's a popularity contest and it's how the voting has always works, but it still bums me out a little.

...So, how do we arrange to conduct an awards ceremony that actually provides awards for the best games in a given category?

Each gane is comprised of three elements, yes?

Game Mechanics,
Artwork.
Editing.

What else could be added to this list to establish a criteria and scale of quality?

Quote from: GameDaddy;780823...So, how do we arrange to conduct an awards ceremony that actually provides awards for the best games in a given category?

Each gane is comprised of three elements, yes?

Game Mechanics,
Artwork.
Editing.

What else could be added to this list to establish a criteria and scale of quality?

Do you count "quality of writing" under art or mechanics?

Quote from: Ladybird;780563How many times can Evil Hat re-release FATE and win all of the awards again?

Well, FATE works for everything, don'cha know. Including the entirety of space and time.

Quote from: Necrozius;780706More like Fate, Numenara and Pathfinder. Kudos to them, I suppose, but I'm a bit sad that publishers have to compete with bigger companies like Paizo. It would be nice if they had such a competition for smaller companies.

Well, there's the Arty Hipster Circle Jerk erm... I mean the Indie RPG Awards...