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[5e] Where to get monsters?

Started by crkrueger, July 03, 2014, 06:19:03 PM

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crkrueger

July 03, 2014, 06:19:03 PM
Starter Set - Amazoned it, won't come for two weeks.
Basic - Won't be updated for a while.
Play test- Out of date for the latest version.

Dragonspear, Red wizards, sword coast, Thay etc... Are these 5e compatible or are they more of a playtest compatible product.
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Sacrosanct

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July 03, 2014, 06:29:47 PM
I don't know about the other bits that have been out for a while.  I suppose the monsters from the playtest will do in a pinch (just increase HP and some AC).  Right now the only ones I'm using are the ones in the starter box.  It's a decent sample, but I really want my Gelatinous cube, oozes, and carrion crawler ;)
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jadrax

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July 03, 2014, 06:33:56 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;764035Dragonspear, Red wizards, sword coast, Thay etc... Are these 5e compatible or are they more of a playtest compatible product.

All playtest.

Basically your options are Hobgoblin, Ogre, Ochre Jelly, Nothic and Young Green Dragon.

Which kinda sucks right now.

Shipyard Locked

#3
July 03, 2014, 06:46:50 PM
Honestly, with a ruleset this straightforward, making my own looks like it will be a doddle.

Sacrosanct

#4
July 03, 2014, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: jadrax;764042All playtest.

Basically your options are Hobgoblin, Ogre, Ochre Jelly, Nothic and Young Green Dragon.

Which kinda sucks right now.

There are a lot more than that in the starter set.  Bugbears, skeletons, zombies, stirges, etc.

But it is pretty easy to look at what's there, and figure out what the stats would be for a monster you want to just wing it with.
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everloss

#5
July 03, 2014, 06:58:20 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;764050There are a lot more than that in the starter set.  Bugbears, skeletons, zombies, stirges, etc.

But it is pretty easy to look at what's there, and figure out what the stats would be for a monster you want to just wing it with.

"wing it?"

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robiswrong

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July 03, 2014, 07:15:46 PM
.. this is my biggest complaint about it right now.  Without monsters (and are there even rules on xp gain?  I briefly looked, but didn't see any) it seems it's not a "full game".

I mean, if that's my biggest complaint, that's not bad.  I don't know that it's fully what I'd want (the "2nd favorite D&D" line seems reasonably accurate), but I haven't found anything particularly bothersome.

jadrax

#7
July 03, 2014, 07:18:40 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;764050There are a lot more than that in the starter set.  Bugbears, skeletons, zombies, stirges, etc.

yeah, but he won't have the starter set for a fortnight.

Warthur

#8
July 03, 2014, 07:25:06 PM
Quote from: robiswrong;764061.. this is my biggest complaint about it right now.  Without monsters (and are there even rules on xp gain?  I briefly looked, but didn't see any) it seems it's not a "full game".
Basic isn't meant to be a full game yet - not until the PHB comes out and the DMG and MM extracts get added to it.
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#9
July 03, 2014, 07:40:42 PM
Quote from: Warthur;764071Basic isn't meant to be a full game yet - not until the PHB comes out and the DMG and MM extracts get added to it.

I got a very strong impression that it *was* intended to be a full game.  THe name of it (I mean, "Basic D&D" was a full game, right?) the comparisons to Moldvay, the idea that the 3 "big books" would be optional...

Even if they didn't say it *directly*, it was pretty strongly implied.

Sacrosanct

#10
July 03, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: robiswrong;764078I got a very strong impression that it *was* intended to be a full game.  THe name of it (I mean, "Basic D&D" was a full game, right?) the comparisons to Moldvay, the idea that the 3 "big books" would be optional...

Even if they didn't say it *directly*, it was pretty strongly implied.

It will be a full game.  Just not quite yet.  They've announced that the MM and DMG stuff will be added to basic when they come out.  This initial version was primarily for chargen.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

robiswrong

#11
July 03, 2014, 07:46:15 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;764081It will be a full game.  Just not quite yet.  They've announced that the MM and DMG stuff will be added to basic when they come out.  This initial version was primarily for chargen.

Glad to hear that.

I guess I'll have to wait to play it.

Sacrosanct

#12
July 03, 2014, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: robiswrong;764082Glad to hear that.

I guess I'll have to wait to play it.

Yeah, it's a total bummer that it isn't all at once.  But it's meant to partner with the starter set, so I can sort of see why (and you'd have those starter set monsters).  But still, it will be nice when it's complete.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Warthur

#13
July 03, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
Quote from: robiswrong;764078I got a very strong impression that it *was* intended to be a full game.  THe name of it (I mean, "Basic D&D" was a full game, right?) the comparisons to Moldvay, the idea that the 3 "big books" would be optional...

Even if they didn't say it *directly*, it was pretty strongly implied.
Man, did you even read the full sentence I wrote? It will be a full game but it isn't meant to be a full game yet. This has been made clear repeatedly ever since Basic was first announced.
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Bill

#14
July 04, 2014, 10:02:49 AM
Wouldn't 1E/2E monsters be mostly compatible?
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