Quote from: CRKrueger;758679You're the only real 5avior or whatever they're called.  Haffrung is an ally of opportunity because he has a chance to carry on his war against the grognards, Marleycat is piling on and me-tooing because that's what she does when there's no football, she's bored, poking Ben is involved and someone allows Pew-Pew for wizards.

I am a grognard, you twat. I'll give you three guesses where my username comes from. But I'm a grognard who hasn't been pretending for the last six years that he always played D&D like Gygax did in the 70s.

My god the autism in this thread

Quote from: CRKrueger;758721What do you think?  Keep on him though, the logical contortions he's gonna use will be fun to see.
:popcorn:

At this point not only is he going to the mattresses over every single perceived criticism of 5e but also every perceived criticism of every 5e supporter's argument.  You could prove him wrong ten times, it doesn't matter, he'll try to weasel his way out of it because that would prove I said something right.

you haven't proven me wrong about anything.  I swear, you and Jeff have this horrible problem of whining about people picking on you, making up arguments no one has come close to saying, and declaring victory all in the same sentence.  

newsflash: I couldn't give two shits how pundit defines OSR Taliban.  That's not relevant to my point.  My point was that no one has accused another of being that simply because they dared voice any criticism towards 5e.  And they haven't.  Those accusations have only been made at people who have this deep rooted and irrational beef with 5e, with an equally irrational love for "the good old days".

so Skywalker, how pundit defines OSR Taliban has nothing to do with marlycat calling you that.  What it was was your weak ass reasoning for arguing against errata in the basic rules.

and the reason I "go to the mattress" isn't because I'm some 5avior who can't handle any criticism, its because of your behavior and debate tactics.  You guys are doing the EXACT same type of arguments the big purple SJW crowd does whenever they are denouncing something.  It pisses me off when they do it, and you're no better.  You're not 12.  Grow up and act your age.. It should be noted I haven't had issue with most of the posters who have criticized 5e, but my issue is with the same half dozen posters regardless of topic.  So I know it's a nice convenient excuse for you to say it's because I'm some sort of 5e fanboi, but that would be you, missing the point yet again

@CK, Did I hurt Ben's feels or something? He's been MIA for at least a couple weeks after his latest temper tantrum.

Also, I never called Skywalker or anybody OSR Taliban given he's a story game guy quite near my overall preferences. That was all CK taking a partial quote and twisting it to fit his argument even though his conclusion about myself was pretty spot on (boredom and football). No worries I'll be outie by August because I have
nina trolls to educate about the Facts of Life right now I'm letting the boys do it. But come September? It's on like Donkey Kong when I'm not playing 5e.

And yes Sacrosanct nailed another part of the meaning for that post beyond the actual sarcastic jab at Pundit for making this thread like I already said upthread.

I could give a shit about anybody questioning a free PDF or whatever legalities there might be around me emailing it to any of my friends. Or downloading, printing and binding the whole damn thing for myself or anybody I choose.

Quote from: Marleycat;758750@CK, Did I hurt Ben's feels or something? He's been MIA for at least a couple weeks after his latest temper tantrum.

Nothing to do with you.  He's gone though, so you won't have to worry about temper tantrums anymore.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;758746you haven't proven me wrong about anything.

And according to you, I'm sure no one ever will.

Quote from: 5acrosanctYou guys are doing the EXACT same type of arguments the big purple SJW crowd does whenever they are denouncing something.

I guess you missed the positive things I said, which is natural considering it doesn't fit your narrative of who is a 5enemy.

Quote from: 5acrosanctshould be noted I haven't had issue with most of the posters who have criticized 5e, but my issue is with the same half dozen posters regardless of topic.  So I know it's a nice convenient excuse for you to say it's because I'm some sort of 5e fanboi, but that would be you, missing the point yet again

Ok, you haven't answered every single possible criticism of 5e spread across half a dozen threads...well anyone who's actually been here reading can put the truth to that lie.

Quote from: CRKrueger;758753Nothing to do with you.  He's gone though, so you won't have to worry about temper tantrums anymore.

Can you PM me? Because that sounds like something serious or IRL stuff happened.

Quote from: Marleycat;758756Can you PM me? Because that sounds like something serious or IRL stuff happened.

He's fine personally.  It was a him and Pundit thing.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;758746My point was that no one has accused another of being that simply because they dared voice any criticism towards 5e.  And they haven't.  Those accusations have only been made at people who have this deep rooted and irrational beef with 5e, with an equally irrational love for "the good old days".

so Skywalker, how pundit defines OSR Taliban has nothing to do with marlycat calling you that.  What it was was your weak ass reasoning for arguing against errata in the basic rules.

So, if you criticise 5e based on anything earlier than something next month, that's 'OSR Taliban' as everything up until next month is the good old days? In other words, you cast the net so wide that it includes any criticism of 5e. :confused: Do you even know what "OSR" means?

What a feeble attempt attempt to shift the goal posts (something you claim other do all the time) after you were clearly proven wrong and shown a coward for not doing what you said you would. Your continued flailing about, rather than just accepting that, only serves to make you look a complete incompetent and doing exactly what CRKrueger has correctly described you doing.

Trying to redefine what MarleyCat said in post 2 in direct reference to RPGPundit's original post with the definition I quoted, some 90 posts later, just shows you for the fool you are.

Quote from: CRKrueger;758757He's fine personally.  It was a him and Pundit thing.

Ah, that's too bad because I respect and like him even if disagree with him about RPG's sometimes. Hope it gets worked out. And it's good he's fine IRL.

I'm at work for an 11 hour shift and my name is enough to cause 5acrosanct to have a meltdown. I don't even have to be online because I am living rent free inside of his head.

I know this is snarky, but I find it hysterical that 5acrosanct is standing somewhere, shaking with rage, and yelling into his smartphone "JEFF!!" doing his best Sheldon Cooper imitation.

My god, you're all a bunch of drama queens. Why doesn't anyone think about real issues? Like me.

/closes embroidered leisure suit jacket tighter, readjusts Taliban turban, exits in a huff.

Quote from: FASERIP;758745My god the autism in this thread

This is the exact opposite of that: it's people investing emotionally in an edition of the game so that any criticism of their preferred game is a personal slight that must be argued obsessively. In this case one edition that doesn't exist yet and another that will continue to exist regardless of the new game being published.

Quote from: Simlasa;758710Nope, I never said that. Only that what he said about chargen being the focus of the game was NOT an insult OR flipping out... just wrong (the way he said it).
What I did see was a bunch of people who were enthusiastic about 5e quickly go on attack mode an anyone expressing ANY doubt... or expressing opinions based on some earlier playtest... or just saying 'hmmm... don't like the sounds of that'. Suddenly you, Marleycat and Trenchriron were hurling poo at them...
That's what I saw first and what set me off most... not any potential 'issue' with the, as yet non-existant, rules.
In comparison Jeff, Skywalker and others have seemed fairly calm. I didn't see any of them telling people to 'shut up'.

I honestly think this type of behaviour has nothing to do with being pro- or anti-5e per se. It's about the degree to which people are insecure over their edition preference. But that right there tells you a whole lot about such people, whether they're aggressively pro-5e, anti-5e, or whatever. They'd rather argue stupidly and in bad faith than have their preference put in doubt. It doesn't occur to them that reading contrary opinions does not necessarily devalidate their preference. That's why they can't keep on track with arguments, constantly derail it with ad hominems and '..B..b..but but I like it and your opinion doesn't change it'. Indeed it doesn't, and now keep these two points separate.

What a bunch of pathetic twats.

You can take that as official if you like.