That rule...

... the one you hate so much?

It doesn't matter which one; level draining undead, save or die poisons, XP for gold, or ANY rule you hate....

Gary put it in there ESPECIALLY TO ANNOY YOU!

You should feel honored.

Quote from: Old Geezer;733708That rule...

... the one you hate so much?

It doesn't matter which one; level draining undead, save or die poisons, XP for gold, or ANY rule you hate....

Gary put it in there ESPECIALLY TO ANNOY YOU!

You should feel honored.

I do. I still use his rules and modules today. Next Tues in fact.

I just removed the ones I didn't like and replaced them with those I did. Though I wasn't starting from Original, but the Expert set.

I always assumed the rules I didn't like were from Dave. (Mostly joking, but having seen what DA published, yikes)

Or possibly ones he was pressured into including, like psionics.

I really doubt he did.  I suspect he put it in because he was still cribbing from wargames and it takes time to fully figure out what works or doesn't work in a whole new hobby.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;734375I really doubt he did.  I suspect he put it in because he was still cribbing from wargames and it takes time to fully figure out what works or doesn't work in a whole new hobby.

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You're making a serious post in a Drink More Ovaltine thread.

Quote from: Old Geezer;733708That rule...

... the one you hate so much?

It doesn't matter which one; level draining undead, save or die poisons, XP for gold, or ANY rule you hate....

Gary put it in there ESPECIALLY TO ANNOY YOU!

You should feel honored.

Alignments are idiotic.

Quote from: RPGPundit;734375I really doubt he did.  I suspect he put it in because he was still cribbing from wargames and it takes time to fully figure out what works or doesn't work in a whole new hobby.

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After reading all the stories, like Old Geezers, and Playing at the World I get the impression that the entire thing was not designed but evolved through actual play.

The basics were designed that way but the specific are there because either that what players were doing or found interesting.

Gygax's genius was taking that mess of stuff and making a coherent game out of it. Well coherent enough.

Quote from: Old Geezer;733708That rule...

... the one you hate so much?

It doesn't matter which one; level draining undead, save or die poisons, XP for gold, or ANY rule you hate....

Gary put it in there ESPECIALLY TO ANNOY YOU!

You should feel honored.

I hope this is likewise as he did with AD&D 1e as well, sir.

Quote from: estar;734396Alignments are idiotic.

And he knew you'd be writing that five years and 364 days after he died.

Geez... there were so many. Even a young teenager could see there were big problems.

I'll agree with estar: alignments were stupid.

Low level mages were so weak and impotent.

Hit Points. The fact that a high level character could fall 60 feet, onto spikes, then ten seconds later get up and start fighting with no penalties was so ridiculous. And monsters never seemed to have enough. I saw a group kill an ancient red dragon (88 HP) in three rounds with one loss.

Dex bonuses to Armor Class. Fine for cloth and leather wearers. But if you're wearing plate mail... no! Armor class in general, meh.

Psionics rules. Never could figure them out.

Quote from: Old Geezer;734411And he knew you'd be writing that five years and 364 days after he died.

Actually I said that circa 1980.

Actually Gary has gone on record as saying alignments were more of a tool to help guide young players, particularly his kids.  And it's not something he would have put in the game if he was creating it today.

Quote from: JRT;734478Actually Gary has gone on record as saying alignments were more of a tool to help guide young players, particularly his kids.  And it's not something he would have put in the game if he was creating it today.

BEEP BOOP WHAT-IS-HUMOR-BEEP

I got that this was a humorous topic, I just didn't feel like falling for bait.