Quote from: Bilharzia;6846071994 - 1996 Nope, he can't. Oh god, is RQ now associated with a sexual assault case? This can't be happening.

WOAH, I never knew anything about that, what was the deal there?

Quote from: Warthur;686237WOAH, I never knew anything about that, what was the deal there?

I would recommend you don't read anything about it at all because it's a sad tale which goes nowhere.
http://hillcantons.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/yellow-journalism-and-runequests-s.html

At the time I wasn't playing RPGs but occasionally reading about RuneQuest and when this happened I thought there was no possible recovery for the system, not to compare with the situation of Oliver Jovanovic who ended up spending nearly 4(?) years in jail.

There's a fuller history of RQ here:
http://www.maranci.net/rqpast.htm

Quote from: ggroy;685703What else were polyhedral dice used for back in the 1970's?

Weren't they used to learn math?  Like roll two dice and multiply them?

RQ and related systems are seen as too simplistic or too complicated. Thr funny weirs mechanics of dnd and other derived systems changed the brains of those playing. Making it impossiblw dor them to see other systems and poisoning them if even trying.
The roll over mechanic especially is brain numbing. Not allowing the gms and the players to understand it is all percentile anyway.
Now we are awash is a sea of dnd and wod zimbies, lol.
But we have started and underground fight and discovered they can be cured. We have brought back to consciousness many dnd zombies. Using BRP classic fantasy we have ensnared and awakened some minds. But it is hard, many converts when gping out often succumb to the zombie infection again. Even admitting they like BRP and RQ they can convert other. But the fight rages on.
But sheer numbers are against us, even the meme of gaming is corrupted by the dnd zombie curse

Hmmm...For casual players who never read the rules, playing D&D first does tend to lead to a bad set of assumptions about how things work that doesn't port well to other games.

But brain damage?  Given this is the Pundit's site and his history with Ron Edwards of the Forge who is infamous for his coments about D&D causing brain damage?

sylvermoonkitten, you're just begging to get char broiled in these parts.  There are people here who like their D&D a lot and, brain damage or not they're a pretty smart bunch.

Quote from: sylvermoonkitten;687731RQ and related systems are seen as too simplistic or too complicated. Thr funny weirs mechanics of dnd and other derived systems changed the brains of those playing. Making it impossiblw dor them to see other systems and poisoning them if even trying.
The roll over mechanic especially is brain numbing. Not allowing the gms and the players to understand it is all percentile anyway.
Now we are awash is a sea of dnd and wod zimbies, lol.
But we have started and underground fight and discovered they can be cured. We have brought back to consciousness many dnd zombies. Using BRP classic fantasy we have ensnared and awakened some minds. But it is hard, many converts when gping out often succumb to the zombie infection again. Even admitting they like BRP and RQ they can convert other. But the fight rages on.
But sheer numbers are against us, even the meme of gaming is corrupted by the dnd zombie curse

I guess I got what I asked for - thread-evidence of RQ/BRP snobbery and asshole-ness towards D&D players. Thanks for helping, sylvermoonkitten. :duh:

Quote from: K Peterson;687762I guess I got what I asked for - thread-evidence of RQ/BRP snobbery and asshole-ness towards D&D players. Thanks for helping, sylvermoonkitten. :duh:

Well..if you asked for it, why are you complaining?

I'm leaning towards crying troll at this point.  But we can give the new "girl" a little more time to disprove it.

Sorry, i didnt know about someone saying anything about causing braindamage, sorry. But kinda proves a point. Dnd is fine enuff.  People.fighting to defend rules like shooting someone for playing the wrong card at bridge, dont ya think. Ive seen such orthodoxy from certain real world people. As for charbroiled, hmm. I am a mom, astepmom,a grandmothrr, a wife, in a closed poly relationship. And you think fans of a gaming system is going to broil me, lol. But truthfully, why ask, if al I seen here with the standard bearing for dnd, why would you be surpriaed soneone who likes another system wouldnt get in some jibes. Besides your winning with your superiority. Happy?

Thought this was a discussion site for roleplaying. I learned I am beat. Thank for proving dnders are such warm people

Quote from: David Johansen;687757There are people here who like their D&D a lot and, brain damage or not they're a pretty smart bunch.

And some of us can take a joke, too.

Can I say "us", having a leg in both camps?

Quote from: Vile;687786And some of us can take a joke, too.

Can I say "us", having a leg in both camps?

Well if you can't, neither can I. I'm in the same situation.

You know, while we're at it, Runequest might have been more "realistic" but it certainly wasn't any more tactical or strategic.  You still basically lined up and traded blows and parries.

So complaining about other games being "wargames" is really a double edged sword.

Quote from: David Johansen;687911You know, while we're at it, Runequest might have been more "realistic" but it certainly wasn't any more tactical or strategic.  You still basically lined up and traded blows and parries.

So complaining about other games being "wargames" is really a double edged sword.

True, and the reverse will also be true for some groups, i.e. you can play D&D as a very strategic and/or tactical game, and the same way, you can play RuneQuest in a very strategic, and/or tactical manner. The nature of the management and the resources, the theoretical odds and so on might change from one game to the next, and therefore affect the ways one might approach different challenges in those different games, but that's precisely what will make BOTH games interesting to some of the same players, myself included.