Quote from: Bill;676693Downtime can be fun, but  your knight spending a month recovering while a Dragon savages the land is stressful

What's wrong with stressful?

Quote from: Bill;676691Recovery times always being quick feels wrong to me.

Just be thankful you are not playing under Harnmaster. That system's recovery rules are brutal.

Quote from: Bobloblah;676697What's wrong with stressful?

Depends if it is fun or not.

Quote from: estar;676699Just be thankful you are not playing under Harnmaster. That system's recovery rules are brutal.

"Paging Dr. Fyvria Shek P'Var to the Emergency room!...Paging Dr. Fyvria Shek P'var...."

Quote from: Bill;676720Depends if it is fun or not.

Tyranny of Fun?

Quote from: Bobloblah;676676This is something that used to bother me more, depending on the DM (and system). Lately, running ACKS, downtime to heal seems like a much more natural part of the game, and there are always plenty of interesting things for the party to get up to while that's happpening. It only takes a few minutes narration and perhaps a dice roll or two, but it serves to tie the characters into the milieu.

In my game currently, one of the PCs is bedridden for a week (then recovering for another few days after that). The player is simply running one of his henchmen instead.

Quote from: Kiero;676730In my game currently, one of the PCs is bedridden for a week (then recovering for another few days after that). The player is simply running one of his henchmen instead.

Yeah, it's a conceit of ACKS that either the party goes out with a player running one of his main character's henchmen, or they do downtime stuff instead (build magic items, do research, recruit followers, commision items, investigation, mecantile endeavours, conduct hijinks, etc.)

Quote from: RPGPundit;676121I don't give a shit. And the reason I don't is because HP has been proven by decades of play to be one of the best emulative mechanics for damage there is.

The problem here is with people confusing "realism" for "emulation".  If emulation was all about being "realistic" then sure, HP would suck.  But that's not what its about, and "realism" has nothing to do with the divide between RPGs and Storygames.

Emulative mechanics...:rotfl:

Quote from: Bobloblah;676755Yeah, it's a conceit of ACKS that either the party goes out with a player running one of his main character's henchmen, or they do downtime stuff instead (build magic items, do research, recruit followers, commision items, investigation, mecantile endeavours, conduct hijinks, etc.)

Indeed, it was something I made sure the players were all bought into before we started. Along with them having a hand in the creation of those henchmen, since any one of them might become their "backup PC" either temporarily, or permanently.

There's no magic in my game, so no magical healing of bad injuries and no resurrection. So that means there's no revolving door for PCs who get into trouble.

Quote from: Mistwell;676241Right now, the D&D Next rules heal 100% of your hit points after a single nights rest.  I've argued, both at EnWorld and at the WOTC boards, that the default assumption should allow for at least the possibility that you don't heal 100% up from just the natural healing of a night's rest (with various fixes recommended, such as heal some HP and all HD, or all HD that you can spend for healing, or simply role your HD for healing overnight, or max half HP healed overnight, or 10% healing per hour rested, etc..).

Have you heard anything from WOTC on this topic that you feel free enough to talk about?

I'm not at liberty to say. I can say, however, that I think that full-healing-from-a-night's-rest is stupid.

Quote from: Sommerjon;676861Emulative mechanics...:rotfl:

There are clearly mechanics that contribute for, or against emulation, on at least two spectrums:
1. Whether the mechanics reflect the genre you're trying to emulate
2. Whether the mechanics are clunky enough to get in the way of the emulation.

Hit points are decent enough at number 1, and much better at number 2 than any of those fiddly 'damage track' mechanics.

Quote from: Bobloblah;676755Yeah, it's a conceit of ACKS that either the party goes out with a player running one of his main character's henchmen, or they do downtime stuff instead (build magic items, do research, recruit followers, commision items, investigation, mecantile endeavours, conduct hijinks, etc.)

Sometimes my groups have been doing for many, many years. Although many players have multiple characters and play a secondary character instead of a henchman of a "out-of-play" PC. Some even switch what character they are playing based on what the party needs/is doing. For example, one player has a character who hates the city. When the party is going to be adventuring in the city for a while, the ranger stays camped outside town and the thief character who lives in the city gets played.

Quote from: RandallS;677422Sometimes my groups have been doing for many, many years. Although many players have multiple characters and play a secondary character instead of a henchman of a "out-of-play" PC. Some even switch what character they are playing based on what the party needs/is doing. For example, one player has a character who hates the city. When the party is going to be adventuring in the city for a while, the ranger stays camped outside town and the thief character who lives in the city gets played.

I wouldn't mind having that sort of ensemble, revolving cast in my game, but my players like to get very attached to one and only one character at a time. I can't complain, really, they have adapted to having a bevy of henchmen around most of the time pretty well (all our previous games were just the PCs, or at most one regular NPC).

Quote from: RPGPundit;677403There are clearly mechanics that contribute for, or against emulation, on at least two spectrums:
1. Whether the mechanics reflect the genre you're trying to emulate
2. Whether the mechanics are clunky enough to get in the way of the emulation.

Hit points are decent enough at number 1, and much better at number 2 than any of those fiddly 'damage track' mechanics.

No, you prefer certain mechanics.  Emulation is your justification to shit on everything else.

Quote from: Sommerjon;677590No, you prefer certain mechanics.  Emulation is your justification to shit on everything else.

No, emulation is real, its the point of RPGs, and you look like an idiot for denying it.