Arduin, Atlantis, etc.: Please quite re-releasing D&D knockoffs with new systems

Benoist · April 25, 2013, 09:49:45 PM

Quote from: The Butcher;649395Yeah, total bullshit. Let's release Glorantha for OSRIC next!

:rolleyes:

Actually I thought of running a game like this at some point. I think could rock.

Killfuck Soulshitter · April 26, 2013, 12:20:10 PM

I'm not a big fan of DnD and its variants. I prefer other old-school fantasy games.
So I say keep the diversity coming.

The Butcher · April 26, 2013, 01:30:11 PM

Quote from: Benoist;649397Actually I thought of running a game like this at some point. I think could rock.

I'm sure it would. Nevertheless, the fact that AD&D 1e is a great game, and Glorantha a great setting, doesn't add up to "run it with AD&D 1e and fuck Runequest" in my book.

And even if Glorantha was as generic a D&D setting as you can imagine, Runequest is an awesome enough game to stand on its own merit.

Now I can't vouch for Omni or Arduin Eternal or whatever, but I see no reason for their writers to default to any given edition of D&D when they feel another system does a better job of running their setting. Vreeg's First Law and all that.

camazotz · April 26, 2013, 04:12:48 PM

OSRIC/OSR support has a built in maximum. They could probably sell four or five hundred copies if they tried hard and made it OSRIC compatible.

If they want to sell more, they should aim it at Pathfinder. Or figure out how to get a good level of advertising and word-of-mouth in on their own systems. These days, finding a product that's confident of its own mechanics and identity and isn't hiding in D&D's long, cold shadow is a rare and glorious find.

Blackhand · April 27, 2013, 02:16:15 PM

The OMNI version of A2A is cool thematically, and the rules aren't that bad - they are just incomplete. My players loved finding things that had no explanation or rules that referenced things that weren't talked about in the book at all.

I'll buy a copy of this one to check it out. Atlantis is pretty cool and I get to use all my Greek / Persian minis!

silva · April 27, 2013, 03:00:30 PM

Quote from: Killfuck Soulshitter;649512I'm not a big fan of DnD and its variants. I prefer other old-school fantasy games.
So I say keep the diversity coming.

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JimLotFP · April 27, 2013, 04:58:26 PM

Quote from: camazotz;649565OSRIC/OSR support has a built in maximum. They could probably sell four or five hundred copies if they tried hard and made it OSRIC compatible.

The maximum is in the thousands, not the hundreds.

Caesar Slaad · April 27, 2013, 05:17:15 PM

Quote from: trechriron;649364Is uses Omega system which is similar to OMNI system. You can check out more in the play test document free via link on the Kickstarter.

I think Atlantis is going to be a fun game. Hellas is well written, and the Omega system is light and simple. I think it would appeal to OSR peeps because it's so straight forward.

You are under the misapprehension that I don't know/didn't read about their system. As an old Atlantis fan, I was very excited. Until I saw they still hadn't gotten away from that "light and simple" stuff.

By itself, "light and simple" is a selling point for me. I prefer "robust and satisfying", which the typical game that touts itself as light is not.

Spinachcat · April 27, 2013, 05:23:01 PM

Quote from: JimLotFP;649865The maximum is in the thousands, not the hundreds.

Which is still really low.

Should be tens of thousands considering that we live in the golden age of fantasy media.

Silverlion · April 27, 2013, 05:35:42 PM

Quote from: Caesar Slaad;649866.

By itself, "light and simple" is a selling point for me. I prefer "robust and satisfying", which the typical game that touts itself as light is not.

I doubt, knowing Jerry, that it will be all that "light" compared to what I consider light and simple. It will be easy to use, but it will have a LOT of substance to it in using the system. Take a look at the free preview on the kickstarter...

The Ent · April 27, 2013, 06:08:57 PM

If nuAtlantis uses Talislanta's system (more or less) it'll be kinda light but not all fluffy.

That said...I'm not that positive to turning Atlantis into a total Conan game. The original game setting's strength is how varied it is - it's weakest bits is the stuff taken wholesale from REH et al really imo. Not that I dislike that mind.

(of course the Magic stuff is said game's biggest strength system vise I'd say. The Talislanta Magic system is good too, of course)

I personally agree with the OP that making it more D&D rather than less would've been better, allthough I can see that that might not be as viable, I dunno.

baran_i_kanu · April 28, 2013, 09:02:08 AM

Perhaps they will do an OSR compatible version after they try their own system.

More folks money with minimum work and a free system(s).

Phillip · April 28, 2013, 03:31:21 PM

I can't wait for GURPS TWERPS D20.