Pathfinder Kickstarter MMO

Grymbok · January 14, 2013, 10:27:25 AM

Quote from: Votan;617691$858,849 pledged of $1,000,000 goal

22 hours left.

It is going to be tight. I wonder if the get less the later you pledge is giving them an unusual response curve?

Now $890k and 10 hours. Can't see them making it, there's not been anywhere near enough ramp in the past couple days.

Ladybird · January 14, 2013, 10:56:44 AM

Quote from: Zachary The First;617833Do you think they'll just continue to incentivize, or is there any benefit to them closing the gap themselves if it's close?

It depends on how much it's worth to them. We're potentially looking at a $75kish shortfall (Rough, optimistic extrapolation) for them to make up, plus KS fees (5%, isn't it?) on their final take, plus costs of providing rewards.

Risky, very risky. It's a lot of money for a relatively small publisher (Even if they are huge in the RPG market) to throw around on a project that is likely to have a low return anyway, and even that years in the future. It would be a very good time to bow out gracefully, if they wanted to.

I'm interested in seeing what happens next.

Mistwell · January 14, 2013, 11:00:34 AM

Quote from: Zachary The First;617833Do you think they'll just continue to incentivize, or is there any benefit to them closing the gap themselves if it's close?

That would violate kickstarter rules. But it's not like Kickstarter has the resources or inclination to investigate the individual contributors and screen out employees and contractors of Paizo, who could coincidentally get bonuses to cover their contribution later. If asked they would just say "we're gamers too", and thousands of fanbois would back them up on that.

Though, again, I think it will fund on its own even without that. When you offer enough miniatures and books and PDFs, it's a fair TRPG purchase for D&D fans who play Pathfinder.

But the MM0? I don't think this went down how they hoped it would, and I don't think it will be very popular.

Mistwell · January 14, 2013, 11:05:09 AM

Ryan's latest:

QuoteGoblinworks Inc. 7 minutes ago

@All - Ladies and Gentlemen we have passed $900,000. [9 hrs to go]

I told my team before Christmas that if we got to $900,000, I was totally confident that we could make the $1 million goal. Today, I am totally convinced we will hi the $1,000,000 goal.

This is the final milestone. The "Hilary Step" before the summit.

We've got fresh oxygen tanks. Tenzing says the weather looks good.

We are GO for the summit!

Zachary The First · January 14, 2013, 11:05:51 AM

Quote from: Mistwell;617856That would violate kickstarter rules. But it's not like Kickstarter has the resources or inclination to investigate the individual contributors and screen out employees and contractors of Paizo, who could coincidentally get bonuses to cover their contribution later. If asked they would just say "we're gamers too", and thousands of fanbois would back them up on that.

Though, again, I think it will fund on its own even without that. When you offer enough miniatures and books and PDFs, it's a fair TRPG purchase for D&D fans who play Pathfinder.

But the MM0? I don't think this went down how they hoped it would, and I don't think it will be very popular.

Interesting take. Thanks! I guess we'll wait and see how the evening plays out.

One Horse Town · January 14, 2013, 11:07:56 AM

Quote from: Mistwell;617862Ryan's latest:

Can't argue with a confident man.

Zachary The First · January 14, 2013, 02:28:18 PM

Quote from: One Horse Town;617865Can't argue with a confident man.

Looks like he's right; they'll make it, with room to spare. They're less than 40k away.

Votan · January 14, 2013, 03:49:31 PM

Quote from: Zachary The First;617985Looks like he's right; they'll make it, with room to spare. They're less than 40k away.

Yep, funded with five hours to go.

Fiasco · January 14, 2013, 04:06:03 PM

I couldn't give a shit about this MMO but the tears of the rpgnet crowd are sweet. I wonder if Ettin will even have the intestinal fortitude to revisit the 90 page troll thread he started.

Dimitrios · January 14, 2013, 04:13:57 PM

I don't keep up with all the kickstarters. Is this the first (rpg, hobby, entertainment oriented) one funded at the $1,000,000 mark?

Grymbok · January 14, 2013, 04:24:17 PM

Quote from: Dimitrios;618045I don't keep up with all the kickstarters. Is this the first (rpg, hobby, entertainment oriented) one funded at the $1,000,000 mark?

Reaper took more but against a lower initial target, they did it all in stretch goals.

Outside of RPGs, Elite 4 (computer game) funded on a higher base goal recently.

Daddy Warpig · January 14, 2013, 04:57:00 PM

Quote from: Votan;618028Yep, funded with five hours to go.

That's the second RPG-related Kickstarter I wrote off as a failure, that somehow managed to succeed. Good for them.

Quote from: Dimitrios;618045I don't keep up with all the kickstarters. Is this the first (rpg, hobby, entertainment oriented) one funded at the $1,000,000 mark?

Far from it. Hell, even Order of the Stick broke a million dollars (1.2 million, IIRC).

Daddy Warpig · January 14, 2013, 04:57:44 PM

Quote from: Dimitrios;618045I don't keep up with all the kickstarters. Is this the first (rpg, hobby, entertainment oriented) one funded at the $1,000,000 mark?

Far from it. Hell, even Order of the Stick broke a million dollars (1.2 million, IIRC).

Yong_Kyosunim · January 14, 2013, 06:40:14 PM

My original trend analysis (I work in finance) had this MMO going up to around $550k, but they managed to really pull it off with some homestretch funding.

Good for them!

BloodyCactus · January 14, 2013, 07:12:15 PM

I think this is gonna be a burn in the long run. Gonna cost them way more than they expect to get to completion. I hope those who funded understand they are patrons not customers and probably wont see anything for their cash (beyond the costless PDF's paizo will hand out) and wheverelse the bulk of the money is coming from dont expect quadratic returns.