Quote from: Mr. GC;591031Yes, you've been entirely out of the gaming loop all this time and yet mysteriously know all of this stuff. Uh huh. So, Stormbringer or Sacrosanct?

I said the same thing about you re: why you have a quote in your sig from before you joined.  So, if we are to believe you that you just lurked for a while before joining, why shouldn't we believe him?

Quote from: Mr. GC;591032I've actually neither confirmed nor denied it. Much more entertaining that way, as Mr. Alt accusing people of Alting is directly demonstrating.

Riiight, so it's you. Ok.  At least you're being consistent.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;591033I said the same thing about you re: why you have a quote in your sig from before you joined.  So, if we are to believe you that you just lurked for a while before joining, why shouldn't we believe him?

I wasn't out of the gaming loop. I just wasn't able to post in those threads because by the time I was done reading them they were locked.

Of course you cannot understand the difference, or at least will pretend you cannot because you've found your third stooge.

Quote from: CRKrueger;591034Riiight, so it's you. Ok.  At least you're being consistent.

Not to interrupt a good basket weaver irrelevant tangent, but whatever happened to you discussing different builds and what is required to make them non basket weaver builds? I suspect you were doing that so you could make something that passes the "Not a basket weaver." check but is still a useless build that cannot contribute to actual play but that's still more entertaining than watching you try and mindlessly copy the Den, while bitching about those that mindlessly copy the Den (except not really).

Quote from: Mr. GC;591018In any case if there were a good player here, or more than one I would not identify them as that would only cause them to be harassed constantly by the basket weavers.

Oh yeah, sure. Of course, your followers and the legions of gamers persuaded by your rethoric have to reamin hidden lest people say meanie things to them



You cannot even pass the Turing test, mate.

and we're back to jumping the shark.

Now that said, if anyone has evidence of sockpuppeting, PM the mods or Pundit. BTW, he sounds a bit like...or 'this guy on another forum said...' is not evidence.

Quote from: Imperator;591040Oh yeah, sure. Of course, your followers and the legions of gamers persuaded by your rethoric have to reamin hidden lest people say meanie things to them



You cannot even pass the Turing test, mate.

And yet that's exactly what happened. More than once.

Quote from: One Horse Town;591043and we're back to jumping the shark.

Now that said, if anyone has evidence of sockpuppeting, PM the mods or Pundit. BTW, he sounds a bit like...or 'this guy on another forum said...' is not evidence.

I don't think him being or not being a sock is really important at this point (other than being one of the only reasons to be banned here).  I think what's more important is that looking at everything that's happened, and the posting style, he's here only to troll the board.

Quote from: Mr. GC;590886All this time this and other threads have been going on and all this time you personally have been participating in them.

Doesn't mean I wade through all the long-winded posts discussing the mechanics of a broken system I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

Quote:rotfl:

Lets try this then: see if you can name three other systems besides D&d-derivatives that have "traps" or the concept of "optimization" even applies.

I won't be holding my breath.

QuoteNope. If someone blunders into the traps unwittingly, they're not a basket weaver. Someone who willingly walks into them/believes they should exist/tries to lie and say they don't exist, typically to lure others into taking them? They are indeed basket weavers.

at this point I'm pretty sure basketweavers are just the product of your imagination.

I think what's important here is that people on the Den only started taking that claim seriously after Misty posted an easily fakeable exchange, at which point they went from entirely ignoring the one guy who occasionally brought it up to accepting it as gospel en masse, and now you have some people here that are suddenly taking it as gospel as well.

Difference is, wanting to know whether or not the person who is bad touching you now is someone who did so in the past is understandable. Wanting to know whether some guy you don't like is some other unlikable guy you never heard of just makes you look stupid no matter what is actually going on.

Now this is Stormbringer and Sacrosanct we're talking about. They're well used to looking, feeling, and being stupid. Even so, their motivations are quite transparent for going on this little tangent and it ties right back into that basket weaver thing.

See, basket weavers are utterly adverse to objectivity. So when some is being displayed, such as say "Team Gimp vs Standard Adventuring Day" it's like an allergic reaction. They start lashing out, doing all manner of crazy, sad, and pathetic things just to get rid of it via any means possible before it comes to a conclusion. If this sounds like crazy talk, I agree. It is. It also is ultimately true, because this is what basket weavers actually do and actually have done on many such occasions.

The only reason they're latching onto it so strongly is because Mr. Now Two Posts is telling them what they want to hear and is giving them an easy way out. If he said anything else, he'd get accused of being some sock puppet of mine (much like That Guy was just because he was neutral and ambivalent instead of overtly hostile).

Quote from: TristramEvans;591054Lets try this then: see if you can name three other systems besides D&d-derivatives that have "traps" or the concept of "optimization" even applies.

I won't be holding my breath.

So I can just select any 3 non D&D games at random and automatically be right? Let's see... Vampire, Mage, 7th Sea. That was easy.

Quoteat this point I'm pretty sure basketweavers are just the product of your imagination.

If only I could disbelieve in you and you'd just go away.

Quote from: Mr. GC;591061So I can just select any 3 non D&D games at random and automatically be right? Let's see... Vampire, Mage, 7th Sea. That was easy.

Well, two of those are the same game system, but I won't be picky. Explain the traps in these games.

QuoteIf only I could disbelieve in you and you'd just go away.

You can. It's called an Ignore List. Or not posting on this site.

Quote from: Mr. GC;591059See, basket weavers are utterly adverse to objectivity. So when some is being displayed, such as say "Team Gimp vs Standard Adventuring Day" it's like an allergic reaction.

Objectivity: "not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased."

In other words, not something you've displayed in any of your posts yet. so by your own definition you are...a basketweaver.

Quote from: TristramEvans;591067Objectivity: "not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased."

In other words, not something you've displayed in any of your posts yet. so by your own definition you are...a basketweaver.

This.

Pure win, btw.

Quote from: Mr. GC;591027And if a person were named Person, you could not handle that person refers to the general sense and Person refers to the proper name of someone whose parents hated them. That right? I figured you'd be all in favor of sperglord pedantic bullshit.

Also, bad liar, stop lying.

So, much like your inability to perform basic math functions, you have a utter lack of understanding about the English language too, and you are going to double down on that one.  Awesome.  You do realize that wildly contrived examples do pretty much nothing for your argument, right?

Here's how English actually works:  A certain percentage of the population are moronic raging gimpy cockmonsters.  One of those people decided to formally take that name and use it as an alias.  Therefore, MoronicRaging GimpyCockmonster is a specific instance of a moronic raging gimpy cockmonster.  We call the former example a 'proper noun'.  Generally, using small letters means you are referring to the group, while caps means you are referring to the specific instance, but not always.  Sometimes for emphasis, the caps version can be used.  I will frequently capitalize monster names and classes to set them off from the general usage.  Regardless, 'cleric' and 'Cleric' are the same thing, unless there is a Cleric named 'Cleric';  but that is just an utterly stupid and contrived example.  Even so, Cleric the cleric is still a member of the group 'clerics', and 'cleric' has a specific definition.  Words have meanings.

However, what you can't do is claim that using the caps version refers to the entire group or a specific instance, while using the small version refers to whatever you want it to refer to.  Therefore, claiming that a 'Cleric' can cast spells and turn undead but a 'cleric' does 200 points of damage per round and has an AC of 75 doesn't work, because the latter and the former are the same thing and it is precisely defined by the rules as to what that is.

If you are going to engage in that kind of 'pedantic bullshit', you should probably just go ahead and explicitly admit you are a basketweaving sperglord yourself.  Hence, you utterly fail at maths and now English.  Is there anything where you don't completely lose on a constant basis?

"A basket weaver is someone that goes on irrelevant tangents with little to no warning and who latches onto any idea that seems appealing without stopping to consider it or what it means at all."

Examples: Almost all the RPGSite population, much of the Den population, many others.

You know, because you needed some help getting back on subject.