@Justin Alexander: you managed to accomplish two things

1) I am more wary of IRWS. He seems to have one additional agenda I am not getting yet.

2) You look petty, disorganized, angry and dodgy. I don't know you or your project, but you are indeed repeating yourselves & seem to have not finished the product as announced.

ADD: I do not see IRWS begging for money anywhere. But you did beg/advertise. Any damage you do to IRWS is damage to a random agent of enlightenment slash forum troll. Any damage to your own reputation is worth real money! So, why don't you do damage control and explain why you did not deliver the full product you promised for over a year? From a superficial scan I see you have some art difficulties?

Quote from: Justin Alexander;584573Basically, Scissors hopes that if he keeps blowing his bullshit smoke nobody will notice that there's no actual fire here. All you've got is a Kickstarter project that's running a few months late because somebody's father died. It's not an ideal situation, but it's not the end of the universe and it doesn't mean that anybody is "scamming" anyone.

No, that's not quite the entirety of it, because if everything else was true and it was just the unfortunate death in the family, you would have your finished PDF right now, wouldn't you?

People aren't pissed about the death in the family delaying the books due to a grieving period.  People are pissed because on the day the kickstarter ended, what people were led to believe about it's level of readiness was so far out of whack it no longer qualifies as puffery.  Who said what on August 20 or August 10 is simply when that big elephant in the room got out.

Quote from: Justin Alexander;584572Do you have any explanation yet for your belief that August 20th happens before August 10th?

And can you explain why you're claiming that these dates are "typos" given that both of these dates are, in fact, completely accurate?

Feel free to continue posting. But until you explain and apologize for your lies, I'm just going to keep pointing out that your lies are transparent and pathetic.

Where is the 1 and 2 on a keyboard? Sadly, since you are so perfect and probably never made a mistake it must be incomprehensible for you that someone could very easily transpose two numbers while typing. In addition, if you feel that a transposing of numbers invalidates my argument, no matter how much you yell, rant or rave, you will not get me to admit my transposing of 1 and 2 as anything more than just that.

Typo. I have explained it to you time and time again.

The only reason you are acting like this is that you see yourself in Jim's shoes and you are you think by constantly yelling me down, you can deflect.

So be it. Since we are at this impasse, and I feel you will never answer the question, I can conclude the following:

1. You did in fact do a crowd funding campaign via 8bit.

2. Said crowd funding closed on 9/11/2011.

3. You have you not hit your promise release date.

4. You did write this: http://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/...-not-an-update?

5. 8 bit does in fact state:

QuoteFees and Payments

As with other sites similar to ours, 8-Bit Funding will have a base line fee for its services. In addition to our own fees, PayPal (and any service we may use in the future) will also have its own fees. Here's the breakdown:

PayPal charges 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction. So, for example, a $20 funding will come out to $19.12.

Our own charge is 5%.

So, after both PayPal's and our fee on a $20 funding contribution you'll receive $18.16 of that.

It's a little complicated, but it's the best system available so that everybody gets paid.

Contributions are immediately deposited into your PayPal email account that you supplied when creating your project.

6. You took said funds upon the completion of your campaign.

7. You are thick header bore, who would rather resort to internet tough guy bullying tactics.

8. You refuse to except any answer I give you.

By all means continue acting in your usual way. The more you rant and rave, the weaker your position becomes.

IRWS

Quote from: Justin Alexander;584573. All you've got is a Kickstarter project that's running a few months late because somebody's father died. It's not an ideal situation, but it's not the end of the universe and it doesn't mean that anybody is "scamming" anyone.

Really?
JM has his or her husbands father die as an excuse? Pretty please" She is a bona fide procrastinator/writers block/depression-in-the-making person.

Don't claim a person over thirty losing his parents is a big deal, that is utter poppycock. She has got a fucking years worth of salary already in her account, no matter what happened to her husbands parents she should fucking deliver.

And if i was Tavis, i would rip her a new own just for such a lame excuse. I mean fuck, if his kid had leucemia, I 'd have sympathy. But an in-law dying at a convenient time? Grow up.

Quote from: Settembrini;584575@Justin Alexander: you managed to accomplish two things

1) I am more wary of IRWS. He seems to have one additional agenda I am not getting yet.

2) You look petty, disorganized, angry and dodgy. I don't know you or your project, but you are indeed repeating yourselves & seem to have not finished the product as announced.

ADD: I do not see IRWS begging for money anywhere. But you did beg/advertise. Any damage you do to IRWS is damage to a random agent of enlightenment slash forum troll. Any damage to your own reputation is worth real money! So, why don't you do damage control and explain why you did not deliver the full product you promised for over a year? From a superficial scan I see you have some art difficulties?

I have no agenda other than what has taken place online. Jim's family issues are such, and I truly feel sorry for them.

Where my issue has always been is the shifting goal posts, and the lack of any public communication as to what is going on.

My first postings where over the top. They were done so to draw attention.

Once again, late projects happen. So be it. However, if the lack of readiness of this project was stated from the start, there would have not been this ambiguity.

IRWS

Quote from: EOTB;584577No, that's not quite the entirety of it, because if everything else was true and it was just the unfortunate death in the family, you would have your finished PDF right now, wouldn't you?

People aren't pissed about the death in the family delaying the books due to a grieving period.  People are pissed because on the day the kickstarter ended, what people were led to believe about it's level of readiness was so far out of whack it no longer qualifies as puffery.  Who said what on August 20 or August 10 is simply when that big elephant in the room got out.

Bingo.

IRWS

Quote from: Zak S;584563Must....snipe....at....random....guy...I don't...know...on....forum...

Oh, and then there is you, too. Sorry, I forgot.

Quote from: Zak S;584574How heavy, this ACK's.

Be careful with that ACKS, Eugene.

Quote from: I run with scissors;584584I have no agenda other than what has taken place online. Jim's family issues are such, and I truly feel sorry for them.

Where my issue has always been is the shifting goal posts, and the lack of any public communication as to what is going on.

My first postings where over the top. They were done so to draw attention.

Once again, late projects happen. So be it. However, if the lack of readiness of this project was stated from the start, there would have not been this ambiguity.

IRWS

So...you invested in this kickstarter, and its late. and you're angry. Have you asked for your money back and James refused? I don't understand what could be upsetting you about this otherwise.

Quote from: EOTB;584577People are pissed because on the day the kickstarter ended, what people were led to believe about it's level of readiness was so far out of whack it no longer qualifies as puffery.  Who said what on August 20 or August 10 is simply when that big elephant in the room got out.

In the thread on the Autarch board and in the backer comments, reasonable people report having been led to believe different things by the Kickstarter text. As I've said before, I wish I'd left no room for uncertainty that the plan was always for substantial development to take place during the KS campaign and after funding closed. I certainly agree that it would have been wise to leave more time for this to happen, and as I said upthread in retrospect the fact that this approach worked well for Autarch's other Kickstarter projects didn't mean it was the best choice for Dwimmermount because of the difference between a ruleset collaboration and a single authored work.

The argument about dates matters only if you want to present yourself as having unleashed an elephant and ridden it to victory.

Quote from: Black Vulmea;584587Be careful with that ACKS, Eugene.

Be careful what you ACKS for

Quote from: Settembrini;584581JM has a relation die as an excuse? Pretty please. He is a bona fide procrastinator/writers block/depression-in-the-making person.

I think JMal is missing a genuine opportunity here. He has the most popular blog despite the fact he hasn't posted anything interesting in about two years. Even those who are luke warm in their respect for him, like me, would be impressed if he made a few posts addressing how difficult it is to be creative to a deadline. That is a very interesting issue. It is easy to create enough material for our own games a week at a time with sketch notes and maps sufficient for game day, and the game can be of an extremely high quality even if the notes themselves would mystify any other DM.

Few of us care to develop our notes for other DMs to use and when that process goes wrong for someone ... well frankly I find that very interesting, more interesting than the finished product would be for me if the difficulties can be articulated. Why? Because the problem of explaining to some other DM how to run *your* material is the reason why so much of such material is weak in my view.

An even deeper issue and possibly related is the observation that 75+% of gamers appear to be unemployed and/or chronically depressed. If that is what is causing the delay with Dwimmermount then discussing it could be more interesting than the finished book itself.

Quote from: _kent_;584591An even deeper issue and possibly related is the observation that 75+% of gamers appear to be unemployed and/or chronically depressed.

Although it would certainly explain rpgnet

wait

what?

Quote from: Settembrini;58446019th century European ethnocentricism

Nothing new to see here folks, the rational changes but the attitude remains the same.

Quote from: Gib;584594Nothing new to see here folks, the rational changes but the attitude remains the same.

You would say that, EUROCENTRIST!