Is it me or is RQ6 a little over Priced?

flyingcircus · August 17, 2012, 10:37:16 AM

I was looking at RQ6 today and noticed its retail cost is $62.95 or whatnot for a softcover book 458 page count, I have a 405 page count BRP book retailed at $39.95 originally, this means that an extra 53 pages costs you an extra 0.435 cents a per page or $23.00 more, is this reasonable? Am I being picky or is this just a little steep to pay for a softcover book? What do you think.

I wouldn't mind if it was a hardcover book.

danskmacabre · August 17, 2012, 10:43:06 AM

Hmmm how much is that in real money, about £40, seems fair to me seeing as it's a small company with a small print run and a chunky book.

Personally I bought the PDF which I think was about £15. I didn't want the physical book enough to pay £40, but if I was going to actually run it, £40 isn't unfair really.

flyingcircus · August 17, 2012, 11:06:57 AM

Quote from: danskmacabre;572382Hmmm how much is that in real money, about £40, seems fair to me seeing as it's a small company with a small print run and a chunky book.

Personally I bought the PDF which I think was about £15. I didn't want the physical book enough to pay £40, but if I was going to actually run it, £40 isn't unfair really.

Seems a little much compared to softcovers with around the same page counts and quality to me that have prices in the $39-45 ranges, $62+ seems to be gouging the RQ fan base thats all. I picked up the PDF as well cause the print book was just too much but running a game from pdf is a pain so, this isn't gonna happen for me.

SineNomine · August 17, 2012, 11:08:44 AM

I don't know what RQ6's production costs look like, but while $62 is on the high side for a softcover I can see it coming out that way for them. If they've got it in distribution the FLGSes are going to be expecting at least a 60% discount off the cover price, plus their distributor is going to take a cut. Out of what's left they pay the print and art/production costs. The ones they sell direct they can't very well discount, either, unless they want to explain to their retailers why they're undercutting them on the product they just bought. $40 is just about the floor for minimal core book profitability barring a really great print deal or (relatively) huge print run, and it's easy for production costs to drive that up.

flyingcircus · August 17, 2012, 11:11:46 AM

Quote from: SineNomine;572393I don't know what RQ6's production costs look like, but while $62 is on the high side for a softcover I can see it coming out that way for them. If they've got it in distribution the FLGSes are going to be expecting at least a 60% discount off the cover price, plus their distributor is going to take a cut. Out of what's left they pay the print and art/production costs. The ones they sell direct they can't very well discount, either, unless they want to explain to their retailers why they're undercutting them on the product they just bought. $40 is just about the floor for minimal core book profitability barring a really great print deal or (relatively) huge print run, and it's easy for production costs to drive that up.

Ok well that makes more sense then. But damn I wanted a hard copy but not at that inflated price point, so I guess I stick with my MRQ2 for now.

Akrasia · August 17, 2012, 11:22:04 AM

If you act quickly (no later than August 22), you can get both a print copy and the PDF for $50.

http://www.thedesignmechanism.com/products.php

Akrasia · August 17, 2012, 11:25:29 AM

Quote from: flyingcircus;572396Ok well that makes more sense then. But damn I wanted a hard copy but not at that inflated price point, so I guess I stick with my MRQ2 for now.

Since the same authors wrote MRQ2 and RQ6, the two systems are very similar. But RQ6 really is the superior version -- the authors ironed out the kinks in MRQ2, and added a lot to the game.

Unlike MRQ2, RQ6 includes a full bestiary, 5 magic systems, guidelines on using the rules in different settings, etc. In other words, unlike MRQ2, RQ6 is a genuinely complete game in one volume.

flyingcircus · August 17, 2012, 11:26:04 AM

Quote from: Akrasia;572406If you act quickly (no later than August 22), you can get both a print copy and the PDF for $50.

http://www.thedesignmechanism.com/products.php

I looked at that, but with shipping its still $60.00, still to much. They have no option for media rate mail and if that's media it's overcharging as well.

Akrasia · August 17, 2012, 11:27:24 AM

Quote from: flyingcircus;572411I looked at that, but with shipping its still $60.00, still to much. They have no option for media rate mail.

Seems like a deal to me, for the best version of RQ yet, but YMMV obviously.

flyingcircus · August 17, 2012, 11:32:05 AM

Quote from: Akrasia;572410Since the same authors wrote MRQ2 and RQ6, the two systems are very similar. But RQ6 really is the superior version -- the authors ironed out the kinks in MRQ2, and added a lot to the game.

Unlike MRQ2, RQ6 includes a full bestiary, 5 magic systems, guidelines on using the rules in different settings, etc. In other words, unlike MRQ2, RQ6 is a genuinely complete game in one volume.

Well the superiority of one system over another is debatable. I haven't fully went through the pdf yet but the one thing I don't like is the character sheet, what I would have to change for sure that I don't like - the little figure silhouette for the hits/armor too generic, reminds me of Avalon Hills version too much.

flyingcircus · August 17, 2012, 11:34:08 AM

Quote from: Akrasia;572412Seems like a deal to me, for the best version of RQ yet, but YMMV obviously.

What are you an employee or one of the writers?

beeber · August 17, 2012, 11:49:22 AM

Quote from: flyingcircus;572418What are you an employee or one of the writers?

lol, he's one of the biggest RQ/BRP fans i can think of (not necessarily a bad thing IMO, i love the system too)

flyingcircus · August 17, 2012, 12:02:30 PM

Quote from: beeber;572423lol, he's one of the biggest RQ/BRP fans i can think of (not necessarily a bad thing IMO, i love the system too)

He just sounded like a car salesman lol.

AmazingOnionMan · August 17, 2012, 12:10:37 PM

At the risk of sounding like a shill, with RQ6 you'll basicly get what you pay for. Pretty darn good, it is.

The only negative is that it isn't hardcover. I just hope the game is still around to repurchase when my copy is battered and ugly...

flyingcircus · August 17, 2012, 12:13:10 PM

Quote from: baragei;572439At the risk of sounding like a shill, with RQ6 you'll basicly get what you pay for. Pretty darn good, it is.

The only negative is that it isn't hardcover. I just hope the game is still around to repurchase when my copy is battered and ugly...

This is one of my biggest fears for such an expensive book thats not hardback.