From what little I've read of it, it reminds me a little of Conspiracy of Shadows, but with more detailed magic, and much better artwork. It looks interesting, but as I just finished 2 other kickstarters, can't justify jumping in this one

Yeah, I understand that The difference with this KS is that they are printing the books right now so it will be sent out in less than a month. Most other KS require you to wait months.

After some further enquiries, I think the attribute system is less "untraditional" that it might seem. Its not the standard array, but the 5 attributes pretty much seem to work like most attribute systems. For example, Combativeness is pretty much Physical attribute. The main reason for the change of approach is to allow the attributes also to act as a "psychological" profile on which to tie the Sanity system.

The voting on the extra art print and book mark show you some of the amazing art in the book.

Just to update, at the US$120, assuming it hits the $50K threshold, you get:

- hard copy of LE 288p full colour rulebook, numbered and stamped
- PDF of the rulebook
- international shipping
- a 88p PDF with 3 adventures and 6 pregen PCs (plus intro to setting and system)
- GM screen
- CD of music
- t-shirt
- poster map of setting
- 6 art prints
- 6 full colour character sheets
- folder for holding map, art prints and character sheets
- bookmark
- 5 wallpapers

Hi everyone,

Thank you for your interest in Esteren!
If i can help you or answer question, i will do my best. But forgive my spelling mistakes because English is not my native tongue.

Regards,
Nel

Quote from: Nelyhann;563459Hi everyone,

Thank you for your interest in Esteren!
If i can help you or answer question, i will do my best. But forgive my spelling mistakes because English is not my native tongue.

Regards,
Nel

Bienvenue sur le RPG Site, Nel.

Quote from: Nelyhann;563459Hi everyone,

Thank you for your interest in Esteren!
If i can help you or answer question, i will do my best. But forgive my spelling mistakes because English is not my native tongue.

Regards,
Nel

I assure you, your English is much better than my French.

I won't be able to support your kick starter, but I have a friend that will be at GenCon this year, if I gave him the money, will he be able to buy a copy of your book there?

Quote from: CoffeeDave;563476I assure you, your English is much better than my French.

I won't be able to support your kick starter, but I have a friend that will be at GenCon this year, if I gave him the money, will he be able to buy a copy of your book there?

Studio2 Publishing are printing the books and have said copies will be at Gencon. This will be the non-limited edition book FWIW.

I kinda got dogpiled over at RPGnet for observing that the core book didn't seem "complete" to me as advertised given the lack of information on monsters, what with it being promoted as a medieval horror game. It was subsequently explained to me that by default, the monsters are mere folklore, with stats for making them real appearing in future books.

Shadows of Esteren appears to be like Song of Ice and Fire RPG which only included a bare minimum of details on the supernatural (a couple of supernatural creatures IIRC). Most antagonism in the game is from other humans and the environment.

Quote from: Dan Davenport;563595I kinda got dogpiled over at RPGnet for observing that the core book didn't seem "complete" to me as advertised given the lack of information on monsters, what with it being promoted as a medieval horror game. It was subsequently explained to me that by default, the monsters are mere folklore, with stats for making them real appearing in future books.

sounds like Standard Operating Procedure for tBP.  guess this will be the next darling over there?  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Skywalker;563613Shadows of Esteren appears to be like Song of Ice and Fire RPG which only included a bare minimum of details on the supernatural (a couple of supernatural creatures IIRC). Most antagonism in the game is from other humans and the environment.

See, that's what throws me, though: how does that make it a "horror" game?

Quote from: Dan Davenport;563801See, that's what throws me, though: how does that make it a "horror" game?

In two ways IME. The first is that the horror created by a players mind is far greater than the horror that is presented to them by the GM. So, having mysterious adversaries that are rarely encountered but commonly spoken of ties directly into this.

Second, and related to the first, the unknown is an integral part of horror. As soon as a player is able to comprehend what they are up against and predict what will happen, the horror aspect is diminished.

So the horrific Goblin that I need 26 pages of Sanity rules to diagnose my interaction with is actually a big dog in a blanket I just don't know it yet?

Cool.

Quote from: beeber;563782sounds like Standard Operating Procedure for tBP.  guess this will be the next darling over there?  :rolleyes:

The apologia is starting to make it sound like a purple shitball, yeah.  
All the key elements are there.

Quote from: CRKrueger;563919The apologia is starting to make it sound like a purple shitball, yeah.  
All the key elements are there.

add in the extra art stuff in the higher KS brackets, plus a soundtrack, suddenly i'm reminded of eoris (or whatever that darling was).

Interior pages have been posted up. Looking good on all counts for me.

Good to see that the translation looks to be good.

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