AD&D reprints postponed

Thalaba · March 30, 2012, 05:36:36 PM

Quote from: Marleycat;524749I don't think all of these may be PC but here's a start for them ...

Hustler, slattern, floozy, demimodaine, comfort woman, ianfu, beggar, vagabond, strumpet, streetwalker, trollop, moll, tramp, drab, bawd, cocette, cyprian, fancy woman, lady of pleasure, sporting lady, tart, whore, working girl, call girl, camp follower.

You could add courtesean and it's derivatives easily also. Say like odalisque, dejoie, paramour, hetaera, fille, mistress.

I like 'sporting lady' - very action-oriented!

Allow me to add 'hierodule' to your collection.

misterguignol · March 30, 2012, 05:46:46 PM

Quote from: Thalaba;524882I like 'sporting lady' - very action-oriented!

It comes from the phrase "the sporting life," which was something of a slang term for the life of dissolute young men of wealth who pursued fine, (prostitute) women, and song in place of an occupation.

It has some dark undertones; implied is the idea that these women are "sport" (little more than animals) and that men of means can do what they like with them. Sade would have approved.

jeff37923 · March 30, 2012, 09:18:55 PM

You forgot "Bimbo", or is that too modern?

Oh, and "Hooker". I always loved that one because the word came about after the habit of a Civil War general who kept a large group of recreational professional camp followers trailing his army, IIRC.

(Courtesans in Traveller)

Marleycat · March 30, 2012, 09:33:21 PM

Heh, I'll add them in.

*The Courtesean class reminds me of "Companions" in Serenity, I wonder if he played the game?

Marleycat · March 30, 2012, 09:45:23 PM

Quote from: Imperator;524818Sorry if my phrasing came out as aggressive or inflammatory because I meant the opposite. I was just pointing that applyingtelabel storygame to WoD games seems wrong to me, IMO.

That's cool, I do consider them storygames in a way at least, it doesn't stop me from playing Mage any chance I get. Given MtAw is my favorite game by a country mile.

JollyRB · March 31, 2012, 09:49:36 PM

turn around time for us printing in China from presstime to books in hand averges 3 months. If I had to guess I'd say the books are being printed in China and they discovered July is the earliest they'll get them back.

** and if someone use suggested this scenario already my apologies. Didn't read through the entire thread.

JollyRB · March 31, 2012, 09:53:13 PM

Quote from: Teazia;524652Thats the tricky thing, I don't think the 1e DMG has been OCR'd yet. If it has, the file has eluded me (both legally and otherwise). The files I have acquired had had nasty glitches that don't work well with common OCR software.

CSPerkins of AD&D3e has basically redone the 1e books with his houses files, they are pretty sweet (not the Wotc Perkins). Wotc should bring him on, then they would have 2 CSPerkins.

When we did HackMaster 4e WotC provided all the 1e and 2e books to us on CDs -- the OCRed files existed at one time at least. They did have a lot of OCR-glitches like numerals in the middle of words but still very useful.

ggroy · March 31, 2012, 09:54:22 PM

Quote from: JollyRB;525178turn around time for us printing in China from presstime to books in hand averges 3 months. If I had to guess I'd say the books are being printed in China and they discovered July is the earliest they'll get them back.

** and if someone use suggested this scenario already my apologies. Didn't read through the entire thread.

(Hypothetical question, if you don't mind me asking).

If one orders a print job in China, is there an option to cancel the print run in the contract? (ie. Such as paying a cancellation fee).

JollyRB · March 31, 2012, 09:56:01 PM

Quote from: ggroy;525180(Hypothetical question, if you don't mind me asking).

If one orders a print job in China, is there an option to cancel the print run in the contract? (ie. Such as paying a cancellation fee).

No idea -- our production-monkey, Steve Johannson has always handled our Chinese printer. I can ask him.

And no, I don't mind you asking.

ggroy · March 31, 2012, 10:03:02 PM

Been noticing the more recent WotC splatbooks, have a "printed in China" tag.

Older 4E books (before Essentials), didn't always have a "printed in China" tag stated.

Kuroth · April 01, 2012, 02:05:42 AM

Quote from: ggroy;525183Been noticing the more recent WotC splatbooks, have a "printed in China" tag.

Older 4E books (before Essentials), didn't always have a "printed in China" tag stated.

All of the new hardbacks are still printed in the USA. It is the paper back essentials books that are printed in China. For example the newest hardback Heroes of the Elemental Chaos is printed in the USA. Wizards has printed all of the hardbacks in the USA, at least for the North American market. I haven't looked into other printers they may have used for other markets, for example Britain or translations.

Kuroth · April 01, 2012, 02:27:01 AM

The July, 17th release date seems to be the firm date. Well and good.

ggroy · April 01, 2012, 08:11:32 PM

I passed by a big box bookstore earlier today.

I noticed these titles indicated "Made In China" on the back of the package.

- The Shadowfell: Gloomwrought and Beyond
- Madness at Gardmore Abbey
- Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale

The hardcover books (ie. the three Player's Option titles, Neverwinter) had a "Made in USA" tag.

Kuroth · April 01, 2012, 08:46:24 PM

Quote from: ggroy;525413I passed by a big box bookstore earlier today.

I noticed these titles indicated "Made In China" on the back of the package.

- The Shadowfell: Gloomwrought and Beyond
- Madness at Gardmore Abbey
- Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale

The hardcover books (ie. the three Player's Option titles, Neverwinter) had a "Made in USA" tag.

Ya, all the hardbacks are printed in the USA. Those that you mention are part of the recent paperback content. Keep in mind that Wizards is still printing new hardbacks at the same time as the paperback content, with Heroes of the Elemental Chaos released only a few weeks ago, which is printed in the USA.

Mistwell · April 01, 2012, 11:18:00 PM

Quote from: ggroy;525180(Hypothetical question, if you don't mind me asking).

If one orders a print job in China, is there an option to cancel the print run in the contract? (ie. Such as paying a cancellation fee).

Depends on how much business they've done with them in the past. We pay 30% up front, remainder on shipment, and lose the 30% if we were to cancel, in theory. There's no formal contract, just an email exchange and an assumption that's how it works. When we've done a lot of business with someone in China, they sometimes are willing to waive the 30% up front and just have us pay on shipment.