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[Legend] Blood Magic is out... anyone got it?

Started by The Butcher, February 20, 2012, 03:44:09 PM

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The Butcher

Blood Magic is out. And it's actually titled "Arcania of Legend: Blood Magic".

I don't know what the fuck an "Arcania" is supposed to be (maybe they meant Arcana, without the "i"? I don't think so, but this is Mongoose), but according to Matt (here), having "Legend" in the title means it's covered by the Legend OGL.

On a more general note, it's Pete Nash's last Mongoose book (which he wrote and delivered before leaving, IIRC, over a year ago), and I'm really curious as to what Mongoose's planning for the line. Pete and Loz are working on RQ6 themselves, and I'm looking forward to that, but I spent the $1 on the PDF and was quite surprised by the Legend core book; looks like a Mongoose didn't do a half bad job of it.

Silverlion

I'd like to know too. With it I might be able to run a Birthright game.
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crkrueger

#2
Gonna dload this bad boy soon as I get home, been waiting for this ever since I heard from Pete what it was about last year.
Crypts and Things in there too, so is Mandate Archive: Transhuman Tech.  DriveThruRPG delivers the goods.
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The Butcher

#3
Quote from: CRKrueger;515710Gonna dload this bad boy soon as I get home, been waiting for this ever since I heard from Pete what it was about last year.

Let us know what you think. The DTRPG review is a bit barebones, but it does suggest that there's some good stuff there.

Quote from: CRKrueger;515710Mandate Archive: Transhuman Tech.  DriveThruRPG delivers the goods.

I'll be jacking my own thread here, but this has definitely piqued my interest. If Pseudo converted Dark Heresy to SWN, I might try the same with Eclipse Phase, a game whose premise and setting fascinate me, but the system seems to be one of those easy-to-run-except-chargen-sucks deals (like GURPS and Palladium). And I've been looking for an excuse to run SWN for some time now... now if only I could get the expanded Mongoose edition with the same cover as the free PDF. ;)

crkrueger

Quote from: The Butcher;515725Pseudo converted Dark Heresy to SWN
Jesus, looking at his blog he's on fire this month.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Sigmund

I pre-ordered the print book, but of course Mongoose is too fucking cheap (or greedy) to include a pdf with a print order like 90% of the rest of the RPG world. SO glad Pete and Loz have RQ now, as I'm sure they will have a more than enough sense to bundle a pdf wth a print order. So, I get to wait for who the fuck knows how much longer in order to see this book. If it hadn't been Pete that wrote it, and didn't sound so much like it would be ideal for runing Birthright with RQ, I would have passed on it. Just hope it's worth the annoyance of dealing with greedy-ass Mongoose.
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Pete Nash

Quote from: Sigmund;515732I pre-ordered the print book, but of course Mongoose is too fucking cheap (or greedy) to include a pdf with a print order like 90% of the rest of the RPG world. SO glad Pete and Loz have RQ now, as I'm sure they will have a more than enough sense to bundle a pdf wth a print order. So, I get to wait for who the fuck knows how much longer in order to see this book. If it hadn't been Pete that wrote it, and didn't sound so much like it would be ideal for runing Birthright with RQ, I would have passed on it. Just hope it's worth the annoyance of dealing with greedy-ass Mongoose.
Well since I haven't received a courtesy copy I am unsure what exactly has been changed, except that (from the preview) it looks like they cut out my fully expanded Spirit Magic chapter and then failed to remove all references to it, yet included a credit for something that no longer exists...

But apart from that, the rest of the previewed intro text seems intact. I'll have to wait to hear if it some of the other quotes or alternative rules have been censored or not.
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crkrueger

Not really any rules for Bloodlines in here other then...
1.) Certain sacrifices are tied to a bloodline (so this summoning rite requires the blood of the Royal House of Charybdis, etc...)
2.) A couple spells that can Dominate a bloodline.

I got the impression, Pete, that there was more to "Bloodline Magic" planned in the original manuscript, is that the case?
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Pete Nash

Quote from: CRKrueger;515770Not really any rules for Bloodlines in here other then...
1.) Certain sacrifices are tied to a bloodline (so this summoning rite requires the blood of the Royal House of Charybdis, etc...)
2.) A couple spells that can Dominate a bloodline.

I got the impression, Pete, that there was more to "Bloodline Magic" planned in the original manuscript, is that the case?
I thought I had included a section called Inheritance or something, which gave a framework for setting up Bloodline magic. Was it cut too?
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crkrueger

#9
Looks like it was cut, the sections are:

Blood and Sacrifice (Historical introduction and types of sacrificial practices)
Blood Miracles (Divine Magic)
Blood Sorcery (Lots of cool S&S stuff in here)
New Magic Skills (Concert, Enchantment, Summoning & Demon generation)
Bloody Campaigns (Tips on using this in various styles of game)
No Spirit Magic additions.
No Inheritance section with Bloodline-derived abilties or powers, sorry.

So the guys that wanted this specifically for Birthright, you're out of luck.

Well worth the price though, practically indispensable for Legend Conan.  Now all I need is Runequest 6 in hand.  :D
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Pete Nash

Quote from: CRKrueger;515773Looks like it was cut, the sections are:

Blood and Sacrifice (Historical introduction and types of sacrificial practices)
Blood Miracles (Divine Magic)
Blood Sorcery (Lots of cool S&S stuff in here)
New Magic Skills (Concert, Enchantment, Summoning & Demon generation)
Bloody Campaigns (Tips on using this in various styles of game)
No Spirit Magic additions.
No Inheritance section with Bloodline-derived abilties or powers, sorry.
Looks like its been more heavily gutted than I thought, since as well as Spirit Magic its also missing:

•   Assimilation – The consumption of the flesh of other creatures to gain their powers.
•   Headhunting – The taking of enemy's heads to enslave their spirits within.
•   Inheritance – The gaining of powers via bloodline and birthright.
•   Totemism – The development of a mystical bond of brotherhood with an animal species.
•   Soul Sucking – The stealing of life-force by thaumaturgists, supernatural beings or undead creatures to empower their own magical abilities.

Pity.
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The Butcher

Quote from: Pete Nash;515764Well since I haven't received a courtesy copy I am unsure what exactly has been changed, except that (from the preview) it looks like they cut out my fully expanded Spirit Magic chapter and then failed to remove all references to it, yet included a credit for something that no longer exists...

Fucking Mongoose.

I love Traveller and I love Legend (though RQ6 may substitute the latter), but really.

Did your Spirit Magic chapter become the free Spirit Magic PDF?

Quote from: Pete Nash;515775Looks like its been more heavily gutted than I thought, since as well as Spirit Magic its also missing:

•   Assimilation – The consumption of the flesh of other creatures to gain their powers.
•   Headhunting – The taking of enemy’s heads to enslave their spirits within.
•   Inheritance – The gaining of powers via bloodline and birthright.
•   Totemism – The development of a mystical bond of brotherhood with an animal species.
•   Soul Sucking – The stealing of life-force by thaumaturgists, supernatural beings or undead creatures to empower their own magical abilities.

Pity.

Wouldn't be surprised if they turned up in a later supplement. "Soul Magic" or something?

deleriad

Cool. I have a credit for doing no work. Admittedly I bought it anyway. It is pretty heavily gutted. What's there is is nice and lots of really nice colour too. And actually, the artwork is surprisingly good and makes surprisingly good use of S&S stylistics - lots of bound virgins and so on. Flavour-wise, I loved the account of the real world cannibal feast; that kind of thing would make most players queasy and they would never look at plantain leaves the same way again.

Crunch wise, fairly slight. It's only about 100 pages digest size and a lot of that is evocative colour and a light reskinning of the core rules. E.g. Pact is renamed Piety.

The spirit magic PDF is a mix of two things:
the spirit magic chapter from RQII and the first part of a 2-part article in Signs & Portents.

IIRC Blood Magic was going to expand the original Spirit Magic chapter from RQII drawing in part from the S&P article but it didn't make it past whatever mysterious processes happen in the bowels of Mongoose towers.

Sigmund

Quote from: Pete Nash;515764Well since I haven't received a courtesy copy I am unsure what exactly has been changed, except that (from the preview) it looks like they cut out my fully expanded Spirit Magic chapter and then failed to remove all references to it, yet included a credit for something that no longer exists...

But apart from that, the rest of the previewed intro text seems intact. I'll have to wait to hear if it some of the other quotes or alternative rules have been censored or not.

Shit man, you haven't even gotten a copy yet and the thing's out for sale? That's pretty bad. If it wasn't your name on it I probably would not have pulled the trigger on it. I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you've done with this, and I seriously hope Mongoose didn't fuck it up. Otherwise, I'll be waiting for you to write a version for ya'all's company and would definitely buy it in a heartbeat (hint hint ;D ).
- Chris Sigmund

Old Loser

"I\'d rather be a killer than a victim."

Quote from: John Morrow;418271I role-play for the ride, not the destination.

Sigmund

Quote from: crkrueger;515773looks like it was cut, the sections are:

Blood and sacrifice (historical introduction and types of sacrificial practices)
blood miracles (divine magic)
blood sorcery (lots of cool s&s stuff in here)
new magic skills (concert, enchantment, summoning & demon generation)
bloody campaigns (tips on using this in various styles of game)
no spirit magic additions.
No inheritance section with bloodline-derived abilties or powers, sorry.

So the guys that wanted this specifically for birthright, you're out of luck.

Well worth the price though, practically indispensable for legend conan.  Now all i need is runequest 6 in hand.  :d

bastards!
- Chris Sigmund

Old Loser

"I\'d rather be a killer than a victim."

Quote from: John Morrow;418271I role-play for the ride, not the destination.