Is this meant to be a joke? There are several references in the rules to a spell called Lost Dweomer. Its even listed as a ninth level spell in the magic-user's spell list. However, nowhere is it actually given a description.

So "lost dweomer" is actually lost.

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I think he responded to a set of questions on another forum, and when it was brought up, did not claim it was a mistake. Seems to have been an intentional joke.

If so that's a stupid joke.  A joke that damages your game is not that funny.  Its one thing if he'd just had it on the Magic-user spell list and nowhere else; but when he put it in the summoning table, it can fuck up a game in mid-play.

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Huh, would you look at that.  Never noticed it before!

Quote from: RPGPundit;495036If so that's a stupid joke.  A joke that damages your game is not that funny.  Its one thing if he'd just had it on the Magic-user spell list and nowhere else; but when he put it in the summoning table, it can fuck up a game in mid-play.

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Wow, so much butthurt. Not sure if lack of imagination (I can think of 2 or 3 "lost dweomers" offhand) or plain old lack of humor.

I'm going with lack of humor because if you can't think up a Lost Dweomer of your own, just skip to the next result, or flip the d10s (ie. 37 instead of 73) or whatevs. It's certainly not "game-breaking".

Either way I'm quite certain that this was as much a joke, as a commentary; consider for a moment that this is the guy who didn't give you a bestiary because monsters should be unique, and you should make up your own.

Quote from: The Butcher;495040Wow, so much butthurt. Not sure if lack of imagination (I can think of 2 or 3 "lost dweomers" offhand) or plain old lack of humor.

I'm going with lack of humor because if you can't think up a Lost Dweomer of your own, just skip to the next result, or flip the d10s (ie. 37 instead of 73) or whatevs. It's certainly not "game-breaking".

Either way I'm quite certain that this was as much a joke, as a commentary; consider for a moment that this is the guy who didn't give you a bestiary because monsters should be unique, and you should make up your own.

Great, now I'm imagining Daniel Day Lewis frantically searching his LotFP book for the Lost Dweomer spell and then tearing it in half when he realizes the joke is on him.

You fiend.

Quote from: misterguignol;495042Great, now I'm imagining Daniel Day Lewis frantically searching his LotFP book for the Lost Dweomer spell and then tearing it in half when he realizes the joke is on him.

You fiend.

But please, please, no tearing LotFP books in half. I'll be glad to give these unwanted babies a happy home.

Quote from: RPGPundit;495036but when he put it in the summoning table, it can fuck up a game in mid-play.

... fucking up a game in mid-play is the entire point of the Summoning spell.

LOL @ Pundit for buying into this shit.

Please don't let it be true that 'pundit has lost his sense of humour, as on any other day, a missing spell is very funny injoke.

Mean, but funny.

Look, the fact is, if this actually was a spell and for whatever reason the writer failed to include it in the book, that'd be too bad, though fixable.

If this was never meant to be spell and was always some kind of practical joke, that's just pathetic; you don't incorporate it into other stuff in your book and do that, its idiotic.  The second the spell shows up anywhere other than on the spell list, it goes from being cute to being something that affects playability.

But I suspect there's something more pathetic going on here: Raggi had a spell in mind, he forgot to put it in, and now (thanks to a coincidence of the name) is trying to claim that it was all his hip joke on the reader.  Which is by far the most idiotic of all three possibilities; because that goes beyond innocent mistake or stupid jokester to just being a sad cunt who'd rather try to cop an attitude about his own fuck-up than just admit he made an error.

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I think it's just a Hackmaster-quality joke.

Quote from: RPGPundit;495124Raggi had a spell in mind, he forgot to put it in

Wrong.

I wanted the spell lists to all match up to a die type to make random spell determination easy.

I had the five 9th level spells I wanted from OGC sources.

There needed to be a sixth to keep the pattern.

But... fuck, 9th level spells, I'm really not interested (note the top two levels of spells have no original content in them), so there's the Lost Dweomer to fill out the list and won't it be funny if people can't figure out why they can't find the Lost Dweomer.

The more huffy Pundie gets about this, the funnier it is.

Quote from: two_fishes;495128The more huffy Pundie gets about this, the funnier it is.

In this case I'm forced to agree with him. Having a laugh at the expense of people who paid you money in good faith is a dick move.