The "Rebecca Borgstrom Is a Moron Law"

Geek Messiah · November 21, 2006, 02:51:37 PM

Quote from: StuartI think you misunderstand me. I'm agreeing with you -- the majority of everyone, including gamers, do not visit RPG discussion forums.

How DARE You agree with me

Sorry, I misunderstood you

My fault

Geek Messiah · November 21, 2006, 02:53:15 PM

Quote from: SpikeIf I DO read you right, I should point out that the Pundit HAS designed a game and has been semi-actively shopping it around for a publisher in various countries.

I am curious, what is this game you speak of? Knowing this could change my view and make some of what I said, well wrong.

jrients · November 21, 2006, 02:53:19 PM

James, it's okay. I was laughing at the first version.

Blackleaf · November 21, 2006, 02:53:31 PM

QuoteMy own blog rates a 5 according to this page.

However, I think you're missing one piece of the puzzle. The sites the designers are on will indirectly influence design to some extent. If Mike Mearls were to read my blog and come to the conclusion that I am the Platonic ideal of the customer he wants to sell games to, that could potentially effect zillions of 3.5 players around the world.

So your blog has more influence than an RPG discussion site. Think about that for a moment in relation to any of the discussion going on here.

Any designer who reads RPG discussion boards or the various blogs of people interested in RPG design / theory and thinks they're the "ideal customer" they should design their games for is very, very mistaken.

I think that's what lead to the highly praised, yet not commercially successful Forge games. By Game Designers - FOR Game Designers.

Honestly, if you wanted to get a better sense of the average gamer, and average potential customer, sites higher on that list (eg. Penny Arcade Forum, Wizards.com Forum, etc) would be a better idea.

J Arcane · November 21, 2006, 02:54:23 PM

Quote"Jeff Rients" is not hiding. Any of the forum posters who use aliases are. That's their right to do so, but it *is* hiding behind an alias, and they have the safety to say things they might not otherwise say if they were using

Right. So not giving out my name to all and sundry webstalkers and other undesirables means I'm a coward. :rolleyes:

James McMurray · November 21, 2006, 02:57:08 PM

You don't have to be a coward to hide. There are countless reasons why someone wouldn't want to use their real name on the board, being cowardly and hiding behind an alias so they don't have to face the consequences of their actions is just one of them, and not even the most popular one (most folks take on a name from a favorite book, game, cartoon, etc.)

Blackleaf · November 21, 2006, 02:57:20 PM

QuoteI didn't realize you were in the tilting-at-windmills business.

No, I'm not really. I think a Pundit persona would allow you more freedom in that regard.

Geek Messiah · November 21, 2006, 02:58:11 PM

Quote from: StuartOne of the reasons I dislike these threads about Ms. Borgstrom, is that it's one sided. Rebecca Borgstrom is being attacked, not "Lady Nobilis 23" or some other forum name.

I agree. I wish that instead of ranting like a loon RpgPundit would give us a clear outline of what he thinks is wrong with Nobilis. If he did that one simple thing I think people would take him more seriously.

Quote from: Stuart"Jeff Rients" is not hiding. Any of the forum posters who use aliases are. That's their right to do so, but it *is* hiding behind an alias, and they have the safety to say things they might not otherwise say if they were using

Note to self: Kick yourself in the ass for using the word "Hiding, thus opening a can of worms".

James McMurray · November 21, 2006, 03:01:30 PM

Quote from: Geek MessiahI agree. I wish that instead of ranting like a loon RpgPundit would give us a clear outline of what he thinks is wrong with Nobilis. If he did that one simple thing I think people would take him more seriously.

He can't. He's admitted that he didn't read the entire game, has certainly never actually played it, and conveniently no longer has a copy available. All that's left for him to do is rant and rave, garnering a bunch of posts to his boards. Since he posits his popularity in the world on the number of posts and users his board has compared to other sites, acting like a moron is one of the quicker ways to accomplish his goals in that area.

Hell, by his yardstick being hated by everyone in the online RPG community, and having large numbers of people come here to tell him in no uncertain terms exactly why he's a loser would mean he was the most popular person in RPG history.

J Arcane · November 21, 2006, 03:01:46 PM

Quote from: jrientsSpeaking of calling bullshit! Questions about Pundit's motives or capabilities aside, the man hardly qualifies as 'hiding'. Name someone who does what he does and has a higher online profile. I dare you.

Also, any attempt to wander into 'don't critique unless you can create' territory will get a lot of people riled up.

People like me. Because it's fallacious garbage. Mostly floated about by arseholes with large yet fragile egos trying to insulate themselves from criticism, or by useless fanboys with roughly the same problem.

I'll criticize whatever the gorram hell I want. I like what I llike, and don't what I don't, and I don't need to appeal to some inflated notion of my own credentials to do it.

James McMurray · November 21, 2006, 03:04:48 PM

Can I criticize your use of the word "gorram"? You know that's not a real word, right?

Geek Messiah · November 21, 2006, 03:07:55 PM

Quote from: James McMurrayHe can't. He's admitted that he didn't read the entire game, has certainly never actually played it, and conveniently no longer has a copy available. All that's left for him to do is rant and rave, garnering a bunch of posts to his boards. Since he posits his popularity in the world on the number of posts and users his board has compared to other sites, acting like a moron is one of the quicker ways to accomplish his goals in that area.

And this alone is why he got kicked off the other forums. Not a conspiracy, not an act to censor him, but his inability to have a rational discussion

Quote from: James McMurrayHell, by his yardstick being hated by everyone in the online RPG community, and having large numbers of people come here to tell him in no uncertain terms exactly why he's a loser would mean he was the most popular person in RPG history.

He isn't hated by everyone in the online RPG community because there are plenty of people who don't know who he is (or cares for that matter). In his twisted mind (and I think the man has problems) I can see how he feels this way.

Of course, after awhile people will go back to ignoring him when they see he cannot be rational and the active users number will drop like a rock.

J Arcane · November 21, 2006, 03:08:08 PM

Quote from: James McMurrayCan I criticize your use of the word "gorram"? You know that's not a real word, right?

No you can't. You understood what the word meant, correct? It's definition? Then it's a real word.

If I was running about referring to my fgohlor, then you could be well within your rights to bitch.

Geek Messiah · November 21, 2006, 03:08:40 PM

Quote from: James McMurrayCan I criticize your use of the word "gorram"? You know that's not a real word, right?

No, because unless you can come up with your own made up words you don't have the right to criticize his

Blackleaf · November 21, 2006, 03:09:07 PM

This might provide some clairity (I think): The Art of Linkbaiting -- specifically the Attack Hook.