QuoteWeapons of choice?

Quote from: SettembriniI assume written words shall suffice.

If I go first at a count of 50, that means you´ll have the last post.
I´ll open a new thread, noone else is to post therein.

Quote from: RPGPunditGood idea. Unfortunately, I had to delete one post by WArthur, who apparently didn't get the memo/read the opening message on that thread as to what a "pistols at dawn" thread is about.

Quote from: SettembriniYou are now diluting the war effort, by bombing everything indiscrimensately.

You should differentiate:

Brain Damage means: Swine
It´s basically the same. You get brain damaged by playing Vampire. That´s the whole deal. So brain damage hits the right persons: pretentious railroaders.

Ron Edwards

Forge Gamewrights

and

Swine Masses

Right now, you are fighting against all, even though their aims, methods and goals are very different.

Ron Edwards: He is just a guy. And he´s a nice person. He´s also an alpha person, who talks a lot (like many people, and most GMs). He´s also an academic. He saw that internet debate is screwed, and he formed a community to his liking to change

1) debate
2) the games being written

Those goals are working against each other, especially as he is also trying to change

3) the way RPGs are marketed

There is conflicts in his aims. None of his aims is destroying mainstream RPGs.

He´s a guy with conflicting visions, and he works for them. He doesn´t work against anything else than sometimes against himself. And he has come a long way, I´d say That´s really nothing to be afraid of.

Forge Gamewrights: Some are okay, some are pretentious fuckwits, but they are few, and they sell not very much. The last thing to fear is cannibalizing sales from D&D. Those games generated their own demand. Again, nothing to be afraid of. They aren´t even posting a lot on forae.

Swine Masses: Their aim is lessening the tragedy of their miserable lives. They are unhappy, unhappy with gaming, with their life, with the weather. Oh yes, and the government. Therefore, they elevate themselves above the other people. By being pretentious. By furthering a conspicious consumption culture. by gaining Mod Status. By being passive aggressive. By theorizing without designing a game. By playing what the kool kids play, without getting the point. By trying to be intellectuals through imitation of their habits.

Forge gamewrights and Ron Edwards happen to be intellectuals. Some pretentious most not. Therefore, their level of reflection is relatively high. When they speak, they know how to speak intellectually fair (most of the time). Thusly, a lot of other reflecting people will drink their kool-aid, as it is  the only real reflecting discussion going on. Look at Dr. Rotwang!, he surely is a prime example. He had to do a lot of thinking to come full circle and realize the ill workings of the Swine Masses behind the fog of reasoned discourse.

So in conclusion, if thematic games and adventure roleplaying games come to be known as seperate, then the swine masses will loose their current  main weapon:

GNS-Trashtalk.

You yourself have said many a time, that the Swine will follow whoever gives them the feeling of being special.

Take that away from them, and they are a huge confused mess of ill-beings, caught between the high and mighty fortress of manly man adventure roleplaying games, and the no-bullshit-let´s-work on some hippy-navel-gazing-thematic-games crowd.

They will realize their loneliness and seek out whoever else is giving them fuzzy feelings.

The swine masses are the enemy, not the flavour of the season they use as an excuse.

Quote from: David ROh no, I don't fit into any of the Swine categories. Damn it, guess I'm an enemy combatant :eek: