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pspahn · April 06, 2011, 09:10:30 PM

Quote from: flyingmice;450474I read Dan as asking why not apply the scale to the gimmick rather than the stat, Pete.

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I'm talking off the cuff here because I don't have a copy of the rules and it's been awhile since I played but the first thing that comes to mind is that gimmicks cap at 5 so you'd still have the same issue

Dan Davenport · April 06, 2011, 09:14:45 PM

Quote from: pspahn;450476I'm talking off the cuff here because I don't have a copy of the rules and it's been awhile since I played but the first thing that comes to mind is that gimmicks cap at 5 so you'd still have the same issue

But didn't Brett say that you could scale gimmicks?

brettmb · April 06, 2011, 09:46:12 PM

Quote from: Dan Davenport;450477But didn't Brett say that you could scale gimmicks?

Yes, as per the scaling rules in the GD3 Manual, you can scale both Abilities and Ability Gimmicks.

pspahn · April 06, 2011, 10:11:42 PM

Ah, I see what you're asking now. This is why I'm a settings guy, not a rules guy.

:-)

Dan Davenport · April 07, 2011, 01:19:48 PM

Quote from: pspahn;450486Ah, I see what you're asking now. This is why I'm a settings guy, not a rules guy.

:-)

Heh.

Hmm... Actually, I guess once you factor in the penalties to hit smaller-scale targets, you'd have partially eliminated the dexterity aspect of higher-scale Fitness anyway. Would that be accurate?

(In other words, a creature may have a super-scale Fitness of 4, which would mean its effective Fitness to hit would be (4+10=14), but if it were trying to hit a human-sized target, it would add 8 to its difficulty modifier.)

While we're on the subject, is there a reason why the modifiers for scale aren't the scale values themselves?

pspahn · April 07, 2011, 01:23:42 PM

Quote from: Dan Davenport;450649Heh.

Hmm... Actually, I guess once you factor in the penalties to hit smaller-scale targets, you'd have partially eliminated the dexterity aspect of higher-scale Fitness anyway. Would that be accurate?

(In other words, a creature may have a super-scale Fitness of 4, which would mean its effective Fitness to hit would be (4+10=14), but if it were trying to hit a human-sized target, it would add 8 to its difficulty modifier.)

While we're on the subject, is there a reason why the modifiers for scale aren't the scale values themselves?

I'm guessing so. I don't tinker much with systems unless they're producing wonky results and I never had any major issues crop up.

I can't comment on scale values/modifiers. Brett?

brettmb · April 07, 2011, 01:26:08 PM

Modifiers? I don't remember offhand - something to do with probabilities.

Dan Davenport · April 07, 2011, 02:58:12 PM

Quick note: I really dig the Exploits mechanic, and how its rewards depend upon the skill of the character.

Would it break the system, though, to offer greater Exploits for exceeding the TN in increments of 5?

brettmb · April 07, 2011, 03:01:25 PM

You can't really break the system unless you mess with the actual rolling mechanic. If you want even greater rewards, maybe double the regular exploits, then it shouldn't be a problem - but expect incredibly heroic feats and lots of damage.

Dan Davenport · April 08, 2011, 08:17:12 AM

Skimming over Brave & Bold (thanks, Brett)... Is the Grand Mastery power sufficient to emulate super-skilled characters like Green Arrow? Or would you have to scale the skill for that?

brettmb · April 08, 2011, 01:26:30 PM

You don't need to scale. +4 is a pretty good bonus, as is its accompanying bonus for exploits.

Dan Davenport · April 09, 2011, 11:14:33 AM

What's the thinking behind making super-strength distinct from scaled Fitness or Musclebound? If I'm reading it right, the former only affects damage. I can't think of an example offhand of a character that would simulate.

brettmb · April 09, 2011, 02:19:11 PM

It's a bigger bonus just to damage, rather than strength in general.

Dan Davenport · April 09, 2011, 11:25:53 PM

Quote from: brettmb;450988It's a bigger bonus just to damage, rather than strength in general.

So the two (Epic Fitness and Super-Strength) can work in conjunction?

brettmb · April 10, 2011, 04:02:29 AM

Quote from: Dan Davenport;451041So the two (Epic Fitness and Super-Strength) can work in conjunction?

Sure. The former adjust damage according to the rating (not much), the latter adjusts it directly.