Huh? Had a posting issue, reposting below.

EDIT: OK< there's some sort of time issue going on. I created a new post, but it looks like the timestamp rolled back or up the thread. Aaaaannnyway.

Quote from: Abyssal MawOtherwise Andy K and TonyLB wouldn't even be here at this site. In general they are here to put out fires and represent their side. Just read Andy's sig quote. He knows very well that he's at war.

Hey shitpants, I don't know what gave you the impression that I'm wearing fatigues in some goddamned geek war, but that ain't me.

I have that quote in my sig not to show my distaste of d20 (I've probably played more d20 in the past year than you have), it's because I found the quote funny. It was also a response to whatever funny-yet-retarded rant that Pundit was on about that day.

Don't drag me into your fucking little Racial Gaming Holy War. It makes me look almost as pathetic as you folks are, trying to play all these sides against each other as if it was as important a movement as fighting AIDS in Africa.

I enjoy games. I like talking about games with other people, even here where I can get some good talk about running good games (in between all the "Bergstrom is a cunt" threads). I'm sure as fuck not here just to cover ass for "my peeps" or whatever like some, or suckle on the Pundit's sweet colon like others.

Jeff Rients convinced me that this could be a place to discuss gaming. GAMING. Not "I hate RPGNet", "I hate White Wolf", "Bergstrom's a Cunt", "Edwards is a Fucktard", "I hate X Games", "I Hate Y Games" being all about hating other things without actually creating anything positive or having any substance. Folks like Pundit and you are quickly proving him wrong.

-Andy

Quote from: SpikeTo be blunt... and I've made my feelings about Noblis pretty plain in this thread already:

Calling a game ass is fine and dandy. Calling the game designer, whom you've never met in person, a Moron and defending loudly over THREE FUCKING THREADS that YOU created.... well, in this one, Pundit, you look to be the one with egg on your face.

To be honest, I don't think much of Borgstrom's talents as a game designer. I don't think much of her writing.  I'll bite that she's obviously creative.  But I've never met her, not even online really, and I'd be extremely hesitant to claim anything about her personage... so unless you can bring up shit she's said 'in person'... via the internet... that backs up your diatribes about her personal character I think you've gone a few steps over the line. You've gone from rabid punditry to general bitchy. Not a good career move.

So it's okay to say that the RPGs someone writes are crap, but it's not okay to say someone's a crappy RPG writer because that's a matter of "personal character?"  That makes loads of sense.

Quote from: hgjsSo it's okay to say that the RPGs someone writes are crap, but it's not okay to say someone's a crappy RPG writer because that's a matter of "personal character?"  That makes loads of sense.

:rolleyes:

There's a world of difference between "Bergstrom is a shitty writer" and "Bergstrom is a cunt". Or do you really not know the difference?

Quote from: Andy KHuh? Had a posting issue, reposting below.

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Dude.  Weirdness.

Quote from: Andy KHey shitpants, I don't know what gave you the impression that I'm wearing fatigues in some goddamned geek war, but that ain't me.

-Andy

I'm afraid it is you. It's not like I put your sig qote together or anything. Not only do I believe this is a war, but it's one you have been part of long before any of us were ever involved.

So thats all I really see you as anyhow. I'm not sure what Jeff Rients promised you, and it doesn't have anything to do with this either way.

Quote from: Abyssal MawIt's not like I put your sig qote together or anything.

Oh, I'm sorry, I was under the impression there that you could read the English sentences I was typing.  Let me spell it out for you in greater detail:

1) Again, I stand by the claim that I've played more D&D/d20 than you have in the past year.
2) My sig was not to diss d20.
3) My sig was copied from Geekkake, who was putting nails in some retarded thing or other that Pundit said back then.

Quote from: Abyssal MawSo thats all I really see you as anyhow. I'm not sure what Jeff Rients promised you, and it doesn't have anything to do with this either way.

I came here to talk about gaming, not to fight the front lines of the GaHoWa. Enjoy keeping the fight going with your Brothers.

Later-

Andy

Frankly, I'm a little curious if Abyssal thinks he's got my reason for being here sorted out. I mean, I'm fuckin' nobody in terms of RPGs online, but still. Apparently there's a war on, so I'm either with 'em or against 'em, right?


Nah, I'll spoil it for everybody. I'm here to sell guns to both sides, and 'cause I can say the "fuck" word.

Quote from: Andy KI came here to talk about gaming, not to fight the front lines of the GaHoWa. Enjoy keeping the fight going with your Brothers.

Later-

Andy

Fair enough.

Is there some kind of argument playbook you guys all use by the way? I can't count the times I've seen a swine argument go downhill and then it inevitably draws in something about race or politics as a defense. So far you've mentioned 'racial war' twice. I've seen other guys in the greater swine circle do this more than a few times, so it's not just you or anything.
I always totally imagine you guy sorta slinking back to whatever gated community you post freely in and saying "yeah we got into it, but then I totally got one of those racial comments off! AND I totally said he was Hitler!"

endlessly amusing.

And if your'e still curious, yes I still totally know why your'e here. Everyone does. Your'e here for public relations.

Quote from: Christmas ApeFrankly, I'm a little curious if Abyssal thinks he's got my reason for being here sorted out. I mean, I'm fuckin' nobody in terms of RPGs online, but still. Apparently there's a war on, so I'm either with 'em or against 'em, right?


Nah, I'll spoil it for everybody. I'm here to sell guns to both sides, and 'cause I can say the "fuck" word.

Oh wait, for you I have no idea. Your'e just some guy. As am I.

Quote from: WolvorineI have not read Nobilis, nor do I know Ms. Borgstrom from Adam.  Never heard of her.  But based solely on what I've read in this thread, this 'Monarda Law' in essense appears to say nothing more than the DMG has been saying all along.

Yes: it's a piece of advice for novice GMs. When you get right down to it, Nob isn't really all that different from D&D.

Quote from: Abyssal MawAnd if your'e still curious, yes I still totally know why your'e here. Everyone does. Your'e here for public relations.

On, uh, whose behalf?

Get specific, now.

Quote from: GrimGentYes: it's a piece of advice for novice GMs. When you get right down to it, Nob isn't really all that different from D&D.

Well, there are some crucial differences. First of all, your average schmuck can grok D&D, and you can actually read the book.

Other than that, sure. Noblis is actually just another RPG, just like any other, only more...flowery.  In all fairness, Noblis is about a hundred times easier to get then it's kin in the 'god game' rpgs. I'd name names, but I fear to summon Azathoth...

Quote from: SpikeWell, there are some crucial differences. First of all, your average schmuck can grok D&D, and you can actually read the book.

Depends on the schmuck, I suppose. But D&D is admittedly easier to read and grasp.

Quote from: Levi KornelsenOn, uh, whose behalf?

Get specific, now.

If your'e truly curious, we can put together a social experiment that will denote exactly who we have to offend to get Andy jumping up to perform his public relations duties.

I may have even already conducted such an experiment!