And now, since I said that the Tyranny of Fun was the province of Fourth edition and I didn't want it to make its way through Pathfinder, I've been moderated by Umbran because this Keefe the Thief cocksmock can't take it and reported me!

Quote from: Keefe the ThiefOf course it does count [as a kick at 4e]! If you see something like that, report it. Attacking persons, living or dead, talking down editions - thats not healthy for a board. Thats never okay.

Behold the moderation of the lowest common denominator in action:

Quote from: UmbranTaking a potshot is perhaps not the best way to prove that you aren't looking for a fight.

That last swipe was completely unnecessary. Really. Don't do that again. Thanks.

*smacks head* That's it. I'm done with ENWorld. Again. There is no way to discuss anything over there anymore. Given the current polarization of D&D conversations, anything I say will end up being offensive to someone, somehow. My opinions are just incompatible with the place and its policies, now.

There's no way I'll be able to keep the hypocrisy going for posts after posts after posts, carefully avoiding the issues to not frustrate anyone a little too touchy for the internet. Too much time wasted. Too many topics to talk about on other boards. Like here.

Eventually they'll wear the community down to pro-4E only, thus meeting their obligations to Hasbro until 5E comes out.

Quote from: JRR;311212Paizo lost my dollars when their lead designer told me I was WRONG for desiring save or die spells in a game.  How dare I suggest that it's not a good idea to, I dunno, drink Drano or something.

And people don't believe me when I say the big open playtest wasn't the best of ideas...

Seanchai

Quote from: Benoist;311249And now, since I said that the Tyranny of Fun was the province of Fourth edition and I didn't want it to make its way through Pathfinder, I've been moderated by Umbran because this Keefe the Thief cocksmock can't take it and reported me!

Keefe the Thief has Brian from Knights of the Dinner Table for his avatar. Who'da thought he would be consistently acting like an asshole? :wizard:

Quote from: Seanchai;311293And people don't believe me when I say the big open playtest wasn't the best of ideas...

Seanchai

I quickly realized that it wasn't that great when the mass of people who knew absolutely NOTHING about 3E and how it's really played scared off all of the CharOp people.

Seriously, if I were Paizo, I would have secretly contacted the competent people, hand them a NDA, pay them a wage, and ignore 99% of the dross posted on the playtest forums.

Christ, this entire forum has turned from RPG.net's shit basket to ENWorld's shit basket overnight.

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;311343Christ, this entire forum has turned from RPG.net's shit basket to ENWorld's shit basket overnight.

So where'd you drop in from?

I found this place because of BWHQ...

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;311343Christ, this entire forum has turned from RPG.net's shit basket to ENWorld's shit basket overnight.

That's called "tapping untapped membership sources". And kudos to it! When the initial wrath dies down, we'll be left with a bunch of new productive members.

RPGPundit

The forums could use some new blood too. Things have become stagnant in the last 7-8 months.

So: welcome, all you huddled masses yearning to be free!

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;311343Christ, this entire forum has turned from RPG.net's shit basket to ENWorld's shit basket overnight.

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Quote from: RPGPundit;311351That's called "tapping untapped membership sources". And kudos to it! When the initial wrath dies down, we'll be left with a bunch of new productive members.

RPGPundit

Quote from: Melan;311354The forums could use some new blood too. Things have become stagnant in the last 7-8 months.

So: welcome, all you huddled masses yearning to be free!

Agreed!  I would love if some of these people would wander over to the Citadel as well, but I don't know how many ENWorlders are particularly interested in vintage 80s games.

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;311343Christ, this entire forum has turned from RPG.net's shit basket to ENWorld's shit basket overnight.

Then you're left with a choice between visiting dynamic forums with experienced and thoughtful gamers, or sites where people won't remind you 4E is shit.  Tough one.

And like clockwork, TBP thread on rust monsters turns into a whinefest.

Quote from: Christopher V. BradyA single encounter with a Rust Monster could pretty much kill the party's progress in a Dungeon, if not inadvertantly cause a TPK, because half to three quarters of the party no longer has a weapon capable of actually harming the next monster they run into.

A rust monster was an overpower villain, specifically written as a 'Fuck You' to players, whether or not it was intended to be.

Quote from: EurhetemecThat's the problem, though - Rust monsters weren't "major setbacks" in the way one of the PCs dying might be, they tended to be almost binary between complete screaming disaster, eating several vital items and effectively removing several PCs from contributing to the game meaningfully, and "rofl" (where they were immediately vaporized by magic), depending on the circumstances.

Quote from: FerrinusThe rust monster remains, in essence, a percentile chance for one or more players' entire adventuring day (if not more) to be more or less completely spoiled.

Quote from: MokurenIf the game has elements of tactical combat where you're supposed to make good, creative use of your resources, I'm pretty happy to comply, and I'm not "hurt" if things somehow go wrong (a bit disappointed at my bad luck maybe, but who isn't?).

I'm pretty pissed, however, if I am faced with something whose only purpose is to show me the middle finger. I hate the fact that I lost the link, but there was an article about old D&D monster manuals where people brought the "monsters that look like something else" to ridiculous extents: you had rules for making a room where, as soon as you enter, the door bites your hand off, the wall punches you in the kidneys, the floor eats your feet and the ceiling comes down to eat your face, while your clothes try to rip you apart and your warts come out to bite you.

And so on.

There is so much angst over a plastic toy with a propeller tail I am almost feeling sorry for these people. Almost. :emot-clint:

I liked Windjammer's point in the ENWorld thread the best.

If you don't like the fucking rust monster, don't fucking use it.

There's 300+ monsters in the damn book, it's not like you're required by law to have a rust monster in your game.

Tell that to those gamers whose childhood got raped.

With propellers. :wizard:

J Arcane, that's not a credible criticism if you're a player in someone else's rust monster infested campaign.

What I'd like to honestly know is how many times some of these people have actually encountered a rust monster in play.  Is this simply theoretical bitching or did they lose their favorite imaginary penis substitute to a monster or are there really oodles of DMs with campaign worlds where rust monsters are as common as orcs?  What the hell is really going on here?