Quote from: OneTinSoldier;246602Police officer.

So the answer is no. Unless you mean you're a corrections officer. Unless I'm greatly mistaken Police Officers don't work in prisons, in some counties they do work in jails. Obviously not all jails are created equal, and the LA County jail is a hell of a lot more dangerous than say, the Wyoming State Max.

Hi, I work in a super maximum security prison.

QuoteQuicker than tattooing.

Also more distinctive, as more often than not prison tats tend to end up the same color (Because of the materials used they all tend to fade in a similar fashion, and to a similar color.)

You know, I went to BME to scope out the scarification section to see if I could link a good answer to this question.  Only I had forgotten how that site tends to make my eyes bleed these days.  Still, if you're interested in learning more about this sort of thing: http://www.bmezine.com/

Quote from: Serious Paul;246660So the answer is no. Unless you mean you're a corrections officer. Unless I'm greatly mistaken Police Officers don't work in prisons, in some counties they do work in jails. Obviously not all jails are created equal, and the LA County jail is a hell of a lot more dangerous than say, the Wyoming State Max.

Hi, I work in a super maximum security prison.

Nope, I'm a police officer. But my state hires police officers (part-time sideline) as Professional Standards Review Agents (its been about six different titles over the years) to review samples of inmate compliants, officer reports, situation reports, etc.

I started collecting inmate weapons during a stinit in a colorful county jail, and continued ever since. While most come from my prison contacts, I do pick up some on the street. Out-process security here is woefully lacking, and its not unusual for a released con to carry a shank as a good-luck piece or just as a weapon. With the AB & AC gaining numbers like wildfire both out & in, carrying a shank is becoming a status symbol.

Quote from: OneTinSoldier;246776Nope, I'm a police officer. But my state hires police officers (part-time sideline) as Professional Standards Review Agents (its been about six different titles over the years) to review samples of inmate complaints, officer reports, situation reports, etc.

We do something very similar. Mostly though it's the State Police who do the primary investigations-I believe it's one Detective Sargent assigned to a facility (Or facilities if they're able to, as (obviously) some facilities have more problems than others.)

QuoteOut-process security here is woefully lacking, and its not unusual for a released con to carry a shank as a good-luck piece or just as a weapon.

I wish I could say with a straight face things are better here, but unfortunately the state of Michigan is in for more problems, not less. Shamefully it's our own fault for not being as dilligent as we should be.

QuoteWith the AB & AC gaining numbers like wildfire both out & in, carrying a shank is becoming a status symbol.

The Gangster Disciples are spreading through the Michigan system (Following the cash flow up from Chicago into Benton Harbor and then to Muskegon, and Holland and eventually to Grand Rapids.) but they seem to be able to handle their various disputes with minimum violence to date. (We expect this to change as they push more and more people out of their traditional areas of control and rackets.)

But sadly I am off topic, sorry about that!

Quote from: OneTinSoldier;246776Nope, I'm a police officer. But my state hires police officers (part-time sideline) as Professional Standards Review Agents (its been about six different titles over the years) to review samples of inmate compliants, officer reports, situation reports, etc.

I started collecting inmate weapons during a stinit in a colorful county jail, and continued ever since. While most come from my prison contacts, I do pick up some on the street. Out-process security here is woefully lacking, and its not unusual for a released con to carry a shank as a good-luck piece or just as a weapon. With the AB & AC gaining numbers like wildfire both out & in, carrying a shank is becoming a status symbol.

Hmm, I know AB = aryan brotherhood, but what's the AC?

BTW, why is it when people talk about prison gangs they always hit on the white guy gang, the AB, and not talk about the NF or the MM?

Also, why would inmates bother carrying a shank out of prison when they can go into almost any store and buy a vastly superior weapon quite easily and cheaply, like a screwdriver, icepick, xacto knife, etc?

Quote from: KrakaJak;246437How about googling it, I'm sure there will be a body modding technique that serves your characters style.

You know, I never thought of that but you're right. There's a website for damn near anything these days, isn't there?

Quote from: Demonoid;246952Also, why would inmates bother carrying a shank out of prison when they can go into almost any store and buy a vastly superior weapon quite easily and cheaply, like a screwdriver, icepick, xacto knife, etc?

Or an actual knife, of course. But it's not about that: it's about emotional attachment and, of course, status.

Quote from: Serious Paul;246880We do something very similar. Mostly though it's the State Police who do the primary investigations-I believe it's one Detective Sargent assigned to a facility (Or facilities if they're able to, as (obviously) some facilities have more problems than others.)

Ours have their own Internal Affairs for criminal/civil rights investigations.

We're supposed to be 'quality control' for day-to-day issues but to be honest, we're a good deal of pork barrel.

Quote from: Serious Paul;246880The Gangster Disciples are spreading through the Michigan system (Following the cash flow up from Chicago into Benton Harbor and then to Muskegon, and Holland and eventually to Grand Rapids.) but they seem to be able to handle their various disputes with minimum violence to date. (We expect this to change as they push more and more people out of their traditional areas of control and rackets.)
 

The Aryans are our biggest problem, but thankfully they're stupid. The Mexican Syndicate is even less bright.

Quote from: DemonoidHmm, I know AB = aryan brotherhood, but what's the AC?

Ayran Circle. Down here, its sort of a like-minded affiliate, although it varies by region.

Quote from: DemonoidAlso, why would inmates bother carrying a shank out of prison when they can go into almost any store and buy a vastly superior weapon quite easily and cheaply, like a screwdriver, icepick, xacto knife, etc?

What Engine said.

Plus, a goodly percentage of the prison alumni are really, really bad at reasoning out the best course of action in a given situation.

Quote from: OneTinSoldier;247062Ours have their own Internal Affairs for criminal/civil rights investigations.

We're supposed to be 'quality control' for day-to-day issues but to be honest, we're a good deal of pork barrel.



The Aryans are our biggest problem, but thankfully they're stupid. The Mexican Syndicate is even less bright.



Ayran Circle. Down here, its sort of a like-minded affiliate, although it varies by region.



What Engine said.

Plus, a goodly percentage of the prison alumni are really, really bad at reasoning out the best course of action in a given situation.

Wow, if they can't reason out the fact they can go to a dollar store and get a carpet knife, icepick or something else for a dollar as soon as they exit the prison door they must be incredibly stupid.

I mean, it's hard to grasp the stupidity of these people, if what you're saying is true, and I'm not calling you a liar, it makes my head spin...

I've never heard of the aryan circle, I think I'll hotbot them.

Quote from: OneTinSoldier;247062Plus, a goodly percentage of the prison alumni are really, really bad at reasoning out the best course of action in a given situation.

Hence being prison alumni in the first place, I suppose.

Quote from: Demonoid;247078Wow, if they can't reason out the fact they can go to a dollar store and get a carpet knife, icepick or something else for a dollar as soon as they exit the prison door they must be incredibly stupid.

I suspect the majority of them are, indeed, aware of this. They're probably mostly aware they could pick up a machete from the hardware store, too. It has nothing to do with "I need a weapon when I'm out; I know, I'll take my shank with me!" It is the shank itself, its emotional properties and social cachet, and not its physical properties, which brings it value, so purchasing another will not suffice for their purposes.