Raoooooooow!

Quote from: StormBringer;246295Because, even with the amount of material on pdf, there is nothing new coming out for 1st edition, BECMI or OD&D.  The line is dead.  You can dig around and find some netbooks online, but it's not exactly easy.  You can get retro-clones, too, but they suffer the same problem with new material..

RPGNow has thousands of items for D&D, 1e, and 2E, plus all the OGL stuff.

3e & 3,5 too.

That's just one source-I don't use DriveThru, but they have a sizeable inventory as well.

You couldn't run everything that's in existence, much less design your own.

I havcen't run an in-print setting in a decade, and my campaigns run 50-70 weekly sessions.

Quote from: OneTinSoldier;246350RPGNow has thousands of items for D&D, 1e, and 2E, plus all the OGL stuff.

3e & 3,5 too.

That's just one source-I don't use DriveThru, but they have a sizeable inventory as well.

You couldn't run everything that's in existence, much less design your own.

I havcen't run an in-print setting in a decade, and my campaigns run 50-70 weekly sessions.

That is a bit misleading, however, as you can't run everything together, necessarily.  Adapting Dark Sun for use with Forgotten Realms is not a trivial task.

And as I mentioned, a sizeable back stock is nice, but there will never be anything new for 1st edition.  The product line is finished.

Quote from: StormBringer;246353That is a bit misleading, however, as you can't run everything together, necessarily.  Adapting Dark Sun for use with Forgotten Realms is not a trivial task.

And as I mentioned, a sizeable back stock is nice, but there will never be anything new for 1st edition.  The product line is finished.

I dunno-if you have a mass of existing material, and the ability to make new material, what more do you need?

Myself, I seldom use commercial scenarios, so once I buy the setting books, I'm done.

Individual results vary, of course.

Jesus Karst, Aos, what's gotten into you!?  That's the longest post I've ever seen you write!  

Also, you suck!

(I couldn't stand everyone giving you the cold shoulder after you made such an effort.)

I had a shit day, and in retrospect, I'm not even sure I agree with me.

You don't.

Quote from: StormBringer;246295Because, even with the amount of material on pdf, there is nothing new coming out for 1st edition,

That's not entirely correct

http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_2137422268_A_ManufacturerID_E_2145082521_A_CategoryID_E_12_A_GenreID_E_

http://pied-piper-publishing.com/

Quote from: Warthur;246164Yes, but that was well into the 2E era, and a while after the old Mentzer set went out of print - though they did put out the black-box basic starter set at the same time.

No one ever seems to bring up the late black box editions.  I remember seeing one of them that a friend had bought.  I think it was the 1994 edition.  It was a very nice set and covered characters all the way to 6th level.

In a month or two D&D4 will have it's official RPG (as opposed to minis game) starter set.

Quote from: Gabriel2;246370That's not entirely correct

http://www.nobleknight.com/ViewProducts.asp_Q_ProductLineID_E_2137422268_A_ManufacturerID_E_2145082521_A_CategoryID_E_12_A_GenreID_E_

http://pied-piper-publishing.com/

Yeah, a few modules and such.  I am working on some OSRIC rules supplements.  There isn't a complete stoppage, but compared to what came out for 3.x and what is planned for 4e?

It is definitely up to the Olde School folks to make the early editions viable again, which is why I am trying to drum up some support for some less well-played titles as well, and the folks over at Fight On! are working on the multi-issue mega-dungeon (for which I need to get some more work done on level 15).

Don't get me wrong, modules are great.  But it is barely a trickle compared to when the early editions were new, and especially compared to 3.x and 4.0.  Which is to say nothing of the virtual deluge of settings put out for 2nd ed.

Of course, the 2nd edition stuff is largely compatible and there is plenty of it out there for use on Paizo and the DriveThruRPGNow sites.  But you still run into similar problems.  It's like that Loverboy song, "Ravenloft and Spelljammer just don't mix".  

Quote from: Aos;246335Come on now, somebody call me some names.

You're a pencil-necked geek!

Quote from: droog;246442You're a pencil-necked geek!

I believe such folk prefer to be referred to these days as the cervically constrained.

My neck is smooth and swan like. So, in essence, the criticism is valid.

Quote from: StormBringer;246295Because, even with the amount of material on pdf, there is nothing new coming out for 1st edition, BECMI or OD&D.  The line is dead.  You can dig around and find some netbooks online, but it's not exactly easy.  You can get retro-clones, too, but they suffer the same problem with new material.

Some of us have taken practical steps to address the issue and made products that work across different editions. You need to be smart about it.

http://www.goodman-games.com/4380preview.html

Quote from: estar;246480Some of us have taken practical steps to address the issue and made products that work across different editions. You need to be smart about it.

http://www.goodman-games.com/4380preview.html

Oh, absolutely.  I am looking forward to more product in the future, not only from yourself and Goodman Games, but from fan produced material.

But the question seemed to be, why the difficulty with the new editions?   Part of my reasoning is the planned obsolescence.  The transition from 1st ed to 2nd ed was pretty smooth, from 2nd to 3.x less so, and from 3.x to 4e impossible.  Again, this is a stark contrast to Traveller, as an example, where I can take my Mongoose Traveller book and start a game, and Dr Rotwang! can keep using his LBBs for the most part.  A tweak here, a nudge there, but almost 30yrs worth of books and they are still compatible to a large degree.

I applaud your entry into the market, and wish you success.  The olde school hex mapping is great, and the work is very professional.  The style you use is excellent for settings, but a book can't be that generic as another type of supplement, such as a book of magic items or spells, or an adventure module.

Those things are being created, of course.  I have a few plans of my own, and some work for Fight On! in the pipeline.  I am just impatient to get it in full swing.