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Its Obama's Party Now

Started by RPGPundit, June 03, 2008, 12:30:17 PM

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Werekoala

#30
June 03, 2008, 09:46:31 PM
Quote from: Ian AbsentiaHonestly?  I figured with all the Clinton die-hards fleeing the party, you would've stood a decent chance in November.

I'm not on the ticket. ;)
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Werekoala

#31
June 03, 2008, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: shewolfKoala - would you rather a guy who might do some republican things, or someone that wouldn't do any?

That's my conumdrum. Hence I'm voting McStain. Ew.


Maybe he'll get a decent VP candidate and then I can vote for him in hopes he'd die in the first 6 months.

Yeah, I went there.
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Koltar

#32
June 03, 2008, 10:40:34 PM
Just overheard Hillary's speech....


 Gotta give her credit - she's NOT conceding.
Kind of admire her stamina and stubborness.


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Kyle Aaron

#33
June 03, 2008, 10:42:14 PM
"It's my Party and we'll lose if I want to, lose if I want to..."

:D
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Koltar

#34
June 03, 2008, 10:51:27 PM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron"It's my Party and we'll lose if I want to, lose if I want to..."

:D


You may be right - but thank goodness you posted that instead of me.

This whole election year has been pretty entertaining ...if a bit long at times.



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Ian Absentia

#35
June 04, 2008, 12:23:43 AM
Okay, so now it looks like it's Obama's party.  And it was one classy speech he gave in St. Paul.

!i!

John Morrow

#36
June 04, 2008, 12:45:49 AM
Quote from: Ian AbsentiaOpinions differ. They aren't supposed to represent a current vogue in political opinion, certainly, especially as a whole.  So the bench is comprised of differing opinions that bring differing viewpoints to bear on important cases to deliberate, instead of stacking the bench in favor of a particular outcome.

You do understand separation of powers, right?
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John Morrow

#37
June 04, 2008, 12:54:50 AM
Quote from: HaffrungTake a look at how much the US federal budget increased over the last two Republican administrations.

In the case of Clinton and George W. Bush, they are examples respectively of what happens when one party controls the presidency and the other party controls Congress and what happens when one party controls it all.  One party rule, regardless of the party, tends to be a disaster because they just don't say "no" to their own.  My concern is that Obama is going to turn out to be Jimmy Carter II and I'm not the only one seeing the parallels.
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John Morrow

#38
June 04, 2008, 01:14:16 AM
Quote from: Ian AbsentiaAnd it was one classy speech he gave in St. Paul.

So, how much is all of that stuff he's promising -- lower-cost health care, college education as a birthright, more teachers, pre-K programs, etc. going to cost?  Does anyone actually care?
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Ian Absentia

#39
June 04, 2008, 01:19:01 AM
Probably less than perpetuating the occupation of Iraq. Anyone actually care about that?

!i!

Koltar

#40
June 04, 2008, 01:19:09 AM
Oh Cmon Jon M. - its the same with both parties.

 They promise a bunch of shit, then get all anal-retentive and can't deliver.


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This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

John Morrow

#41
June 04, 2008, 01:58:25 AM
Quote from: Ian AbsentiaProbably less than perpetuating the occupation of Iraq. Anyone actually care about that?

Are you sure?  And do you really think that simply pulling out of Iraq will have no cost?
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John Morrow

#42
June 04, 2008, 02:02:00 AM
Quote from: KoltarOh Cmon Jon M. - its the same with both parties.

 They promise a bunch of shit, then get all anal-retentive and can't deliver.

Sure, but Obama is supposed to be Change We Can Believe In.  Is he?  Should I believe him or is he just another politician selling wolf tickets?
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RPGPundit

#43
June 04, 2008, 03:46:34 AM
Quote from: HaffrungTake a look at how much the US federal budget increased over the last two Republican administrations.

From the standpoint of a country that has a budget surplus, and is paying off its federal debt, neither of the USA's parties seems about fiscal conservatism, though oddly one gets tarred with the big government brush a lot more than the other. Perhaps in the context of American public policy debate, 'big government' has nothing to do with actual spending.

Both sides seem to really be about "Big government", its just that one side also clings dearly to the ideological belief that "government doesn't work", and proceed to do their damnedest to prove that belief to be true.

The other side often makes a fine job of demonstrating the limitations, flaws, and failings of big government, but at least they are actually trying their damnedest to make it work, because they believe in it.

There is no real party of small government.

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#44
June 04, 2008, 04:25:03 AM
Quote from: James J SkachI wonder how many of us there are. There might be some quibbling over s few specifics, but for the most part I bet there's quite a few.
More than I think any of you individually realize. "Socially liberal, fiscally conservative" is a popular opinion among those people your age that I know. If a candidate could catch on to that, and somehow capitalize on it, that would be nice. But campaigns are not won on the basis of policy so much as publicity. You get publicity with money, and money with lobbyists. At least from the looks of things.

FWIW, I'd sign on to the socially liberal fiscally conservative thing myself, but for the exception of my preference for universal health care. Because I'm poor, and not being able to go to the doctor or the dentist when I need to sucks. Maybe it's selfish; I really don't care.
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