Any ideas for replacement IPs? I have a few ideas for a number of different settings.

One idea I had was a setting full of countless worlds connected by stargates, a network uncreatively called "Yggdrasil", allowing for wildly diverse armies to come into conflict without worrying about whether the political geography made sense for it. This provides more freedom in design compared to a single "Old World", while still allowing at least one such "Old World" to exist in the same timeframe.

Another involved an interstellar war between two blocs: the Confederacy, who are space cowboys, and the Union, who are space soviets. Their war is complicated by encounters with expansionist alien civilizations like the Swarmers (space bugs driven to consume all bio-matter) and the Crusaders (theocratic multi-species empire).

A third involves a galactic war between multiple human civilizations, with at least twelve options presented, such as Texas, Genosha, Westworld, Microsoft, and the USSR. There's aliens in the background, but it's a human-dominated galaxy.

The sky's the limit.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on April 20, 2024, 12:09:05 PMAny ideas for replacement IPs? I have a few ideas for a number of different settings.

One idea I had was a setting full of countless worlds connected by stargates, a network uncreatively called "Yggdrasil", allowing for wildly diverse armies to come into conflict without worrying about whether the political geography made sense for it. This provides more freedom in design compared to a single "Old World", while still allowing at least one such "Old World" to exist in the same timeframe.

Another involved an interstellar war between two blocs: the Confederacy, who are space cowboys, and the Union, who are space soviets. Their war is complicated by encounters with expansionist alien civilizations like the Swarmers (space bugs driven to consume all bio-matter) and the Crusaders (theocratic multi-species empire).

A third involves a galactic war between multiple human civilizations, with at least twelve options presented, such as Texas, Genosha, Westworld, Microsoft, and the USSR. There's aliens in the background, but it's a human-dominated galaxy.

The sky's the limit.

Here's an idea:

Make the setting (whichever you like best) but make it system neutral, just put enough notes for whoever wants to use it to be able to adapt it to whatever system they like best.

Or make the setting and then work with someone to adapt it to a system.

Here's an idea for the name of a generic system: Open Space Wars.

Edited to add:

Now riddle me this, how are you going to prevent the same bores (or the satanic panic ones) from spoiling your creation without copyright?

The woke haven't managed to wreck the Cthulhu mythos because nobody owns it. You can just make your own product and sell it without any fear of lawsuits.

It's really just the same bores just a new generation and a new religion with a new devil.  I suspect they've found jetisoning Christianity increased their credibility.  Good riddence too.

I've written a couple different attempts at an alternate, low tech future but I've found people mostly prefer to have the serial numbers filed off and stay with the original setting.  For some reason it really resonates with people.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on April 20, 2024, 07:48:28 PMThe woke haven't managed to wreck the Cthulhu mythos because nobody owns it. You can just make your own product and sell it without any fear of lawsuits.

Except you can't, the state has some rights around which you must work or else buy the rights from them.

Open Cthulhu went down for that exact reason.

There's a White Box FMAG based game that dances around to avoid ANY copyright/trademark.

Why is it that you CAN'T write a novel and use Conan, Tarzan, Carson of Venus, John Carter, etc in the title? Trademark.

You CAN use the characters inside without ANY problem because Public Domain.

Which is MY point, putting your setting in the public domain allows ANYONE to use it in whatever way they so choose, and if they have more money/influence than you outsell you thus supplanting your work from the public conscience.

So they could take your stuff and turn it into the most putrid wokefest imaginable and there's nothing you can do.

Quote from: David Johansen on April 20, 2024, 08:57:41 PMIt's really just the same bores just a new generation and a new religion with a new devil.  I suspect they've found jetisoning Christianity increased their credibility.  Good riddence too.

I've written a couple different attempts at an alternate, low tech future but I've found people mostly prefer to have the serial numbers filed off and stay with the original setting.  For some reason it really resonates with people.

It's the same type of mentality/personality, I agree, but they aren't the same bores.

One Page Rules and 3D resin printers.

Or, in my case, I went back and started playing BattleTech again.  Or Alpha Strike to be fair.  And because I have a 6 year old I had to do a crash course on how to run aerospace fighters because he likes having Phoenix Hawk LAMs in his army.

Our other games I mention are free downloadable rules made by amateur writers, but they're fine.  I've even started making 3D models of spaceships so we can play a starship combat game called Starmageddon.  Or I may repurpose pre-dreadnought era rules to run a gain of spaceship game.

The big one is the 3D resin printers you can buy these days.  I have a Mars-3 from Elegoo, and it works fine.  It is much easier than the old filament printer I used to have.

Quote from: weirdguy564 on April 21, 2024, 01:23:34 AMOne Page Rules and 3D resin printers.

Or, in my case, I went back and started playing BattleTech again.  Or Alpha Strike to be fair.  And because I have a 6 year old I had to do a crash course on how to run aerospace fighters because he likes having Phoenix Hawk LAMs in his army.

Our other games I mention are free downloadable rules made by amateur writers, but they're fine.  I've even started making 3D models of spaceships so we can play a starship combat game called Starmageddon.  Or I may repurpose pre-dreadnought era rules to run a gain of spaceship game.

The big one is the 3D resin printers you can buy these days.  I have a Mars-3 from Elegoo, and it works fine.  It is much easier than the old filament printer I used to have.

BattleTech has ALSO gone woke BattleTech Goes Woke

Greetings!

Here is an excellent commentary by YouTuber Ptolomy.


Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 21, 2024, 02:05:26 AMBattleTech has ALSO gone woke BattleTech Goes Woke

Oh, I'm well aware.  I did mention my 3D printer, and it doesn't phase me to print out my own minatures like 80 ton Awesomes or 50 ton Centurions, or my OWN version of what a Marauder is (because the top AC-5 autocannon has to be on the RH side of the mech per the stats, not the centerline - O.C.D. trigger alert).

It still bothers me that they removed the Rommel tank because there is something wrong about Erwin Rommel from history I guess.  Idiots.

Anyways, here is the actual reason I am posting.  Alternatives to Games Workshop, or Catalyst Games.

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There is ANOTHER miniature wargame I bought recently.  It is called C.O.R.E. Mech Warfare.  Don't let the generic AI generated art from the game fool you.  The ACTUAL units for this game are Gundams.  144 scale plastic miniature kits from Japan, often called Gunpla (short for Gundam Plastic Model Kit).

The game even has free Demo Rules you can download and look at how the game plays.  I have the full rulebook so I can tell you that the Demo Rules are just the regular rules with the Mech builder chapter removed.  The Demo rules are the exact same pages you see in the full game. 

C.O.R.E. free rulebook you can download

Gundam model kits are only about $15 or $20 which are the misleadingly named "high grade" kits. HG kits are the low end of the Gunpla complexity and cost.

Gundam USA online store

Painting a Gunpla is almost non-existing.  The plastic model kits have ALL been designed to snap together without glue and paint since the mid-1990's.  I have a bunch of Gundam models on my shelf of toys.  They are easy to put together.  The only tool I needed was some wire cutters to snip the parts off of the plastic sprues and snap together.  The joint parts aren't even plastic, but use a hard rubber sprue of round bits with holes thru them called Polycaps.  This means you can move and pose the robot and because the joints are rubber it won't wear out.

I think this is another good option for tabletop gaming.

Quote from: weirdguy564 on April 21, 2024, 01:23:34 AMOne Page Rules and 3D resin printers.

Or, in my case, I went back and started playing BattleTech again.  Or Alpha Strike to be fair.  And because I have a 6 year old I had to do a crash course on how to run aerospace fighters because he likes having Phoenix Hawk LAMs in his army.

Our other games I mention are free downloadable rules made by amateur writers, but they're fine.  I've even started making 3D models of spaceships so we can play a starship combat game called Starmageddon.  Or I may repurpose pre-dreadnought era rules to run a gain of spaceship game.

The big one is the 3D resin printers you can buy these days.  I have a Mars-3 from Elegoo, and it works fine.  It is much easier than the old filament printer I used to have.

Planet 28 is pretty good, albeit a bit basic.

How is One Page Rules? That seems to be the thing everybody mentions whenever breaking away from 40k is brought up.

As for BattleTech, that was a great game to get into. Got the starter set, rulebook, and snagged a bunch of mechs off Ebay and Etsy. It quickly became one of my favorite games.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 21, 2024, 12:33:47 AM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on April 20, 2024, 07:48:28 PMThe woke haven't managed to wreck the Cthulhu mythos because nobody owns it. You can just make your own product and sell it without any fear of lawsuits.

Except you can't, the state has some rights around which you must work or else buy the rights from them.

Open Cthulhu went down for that exact reason.

There's a White Box FMAG based game that dances around to avoid ANY copyright/trademark.

Why is it that you CAN'T write a novel and use Conan, Tarzan, Carson of Venus, John Carter, etc in the title? Trademark.

You CAN use the characters inside without ANY problem because Public Domain.

Which is MY point, putting your setting in the public domain allows ANYONE to use it in whatever way they so choose, and if they have more money/influence than you outsell you thus supplanting your work from the public conscience.

So they could take your stuff and turn it into the most putrid wokefest imaginable and there's nothing you can do.

How often does that scenario you describe actually happen and without going broke?

The Burroughs Estate isn't monetizing their trademarks nearly as much as they could or taking them in a woke direction.

Also, Open Cthulhu is still around: https://cthulhueternal.com/open-mythos/

Quote from: David Johansen on April 20, 2024, 08:57:41 PMIt's really just the same bores just a new generation and a new religion with a new devil.  I suspect they've found jetisoning Christianity increased their credibility.  Good riddence too.

I've written a couple different attempts at an alternate, low tech future but I've found people mostly prefer to have the serial numbers filed off and stay with the original setting.  For some reason it really resonates with people.

yeah, One Page Rules, right?

I think that attitude is really stupid. Modern pop culture is a soulless wasteland because people have been uncreative zombies who congregates around a handful of monopolistic rotting dinosaur IPs that strangle creativity and kill off all competition. Every IP either gets canceled or undergoes decay into something unrecognizable as what you liked in the first place.

We need more IPs, not less!

Quote from: 1stLevelWizard on April 21, 2024, 09:52:25 AM

Quote from: weirdguy564 on April 21, 2024, 01:23:34 AMOne Page Rules and 3D resin printers.

Or, in my case, I went back and started playing BattleTech again.  Or Alpha Strike to be fair.  And because I have a 6 year old I had to do a crash course on how to run aerospace fighters because he likes having Phoenix Hawk LAMs in his army.

Our other games I mention are free downloadable rules made by amateur writers, but they're fine.  I've even started making 3D models of spaceships so we can play a starship combat game called Starmageddon.  Or I may repurpose pre-dreadnought era rules to run a gain of spaceship game.

The big one is the 3D resin printers you can buy these days.  I have a Mars-3 from Elegoo, and it works fine.  It is much easier than the old filament printer I used to have.

Planet 28 is pretty good, albeit a bit basic.

How is One Page Rules? That seems to be the thing everybody mentions whenever breaking away from 40k is brought up.

As for BattleTech, that was a great game to get into. Got the starter set, rulebook, and snagged a bunch of mechs off Ebay and Etsy. It quickly became one of my favorite games.

Why not find out for yourself for FREE? You get the core rules (Two, 2 page files) and the beginners guide (16 pages books) for the skirmish and the normal game plus TWO armies (not the cool ones mind you) both in stl and in paper and tokens for vtt.

FREE Grimdark Future Starter Set FREE

Quote from: weirdguy564 on April 21, 2024, 07:42:08 AM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 21, 2024, 02:05:26 AMBattleTech has ALSO gone woke BattleTech Goes Woke

Oh, I'm well aware.  I did mention my 3D printer, and it doesn't phase me to print out my own minatures like 80 ton Awesomes or 50 ton Centurions, or my OWN version of what a Marauder is (because the top AC-5 autocannon has to be on the RH side of the mech per the stats, not the centerline - O.C.D. trigger alert).

It still bothers me that they removed the Rommel tank because there is something wrong about Erwin Rommel from history I guess.  Idiots.

Anyways, here is the actual reason I am posting.  Alternatives to Games Workshop, or Catalyst Games.

-----------------------------------------------------------

There is ANOTHER miniature wargame I bought recently.  It is called C.O.R.E. Mech Warfare.  Don't let the generic AI generated art from the game fool you.  The ACTUAL units this game is meant to stat out are Gundams.  144 scale plastic miniature kits from Japan, often called Gunpla (short for Gundam Plastic Model Kit).

The game even has a free Demo Rules you can download and look at how the game plays.  I have the full rulebook and I can tell you that the Demo Rules are just the regular rules with the Mech builder chapter removed.  The combat rules are those exact pages you see.

C.O.R.E. free rulebook you can download

Gundam model kits are only about $15 or $20 for your lower detailed kits (the miss-named "high grade" kits which are the low end of the model kit complexity and cost.

Gundam USA online store

Painting a Gunpla is almost non-existing.  The plastic model kits have ALL be designed to snap together without glue and paint since the mid-1990's.  I have a bunch of Gundam models on my shelf of toys, and they're easy to put together, and the only tool I needed was some wire cutters to snip the parts off of the plastic sprues and snap together.  The joint parts aren't even plastic, but use a hard rubber sprue of round bits with holes thru them called Polycaps.  This means you can move and pose the robot and because the joints are rubber it won't wear out.

I think this is another good option for tabletop gaming.

That's the BEST reason to post, instead of just bitching and moaning (which can be fun), complain then provide alternatives.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 21, 2024, 12:16:39 PM

Quote from: 1stLevelWizard on April 21, 2024, 09:52:25 AM

Quote from: weirdguy564 on April 21, 2024, 01:23:34 AMOne Page Rules and 3D resin printers.

Or, in my case, I went back and started playing BattleTech again.  Or Alpha Strike to be fair.  And because I have a 6 year old I had to do a crash course on how to run aerospace fighters because he likes having Phoenix Hawk LAMs in his army.

Our other games I mention are free downloadable rules made by amateur writers, but they're fine.  I've even started making 3D models of spaceships so we can play a starship combat game called Starmageddon.  Or I may repurpose pre-dreadnought era rules to run a gain of spaceship game.

The big one is the 3D resin printers you can buy these days.  I have a Mars-3 from Elegoo, and it works fine.  It is much easier than the old filament printer I used to have.

Planet 28 is pretty good, albeit a bit basic.

How is One Page Rules? That seems to be the thing everybody mentions whenever breaking away from 40k is brought up.

As for BattleTech, that was a great game to get into. Got the starter set, rulebook, and snagged a bunch of mechs off Ebay and Etsy. It quickly became one of my favorite games.

Why not find out for yourself for FREE? You get the core rules (Two, 2 page files) and the beginners guide (16 pages books) for the skirmish and the normal game plus TWO armies (not the cool ones mind you) both in stl and in paper and tokens for vtt.

FREE Grimdark Future Starter Set FREE

XD I like the sales pitch. Sure I'll give it a shot later today.