Quote from: Jaeger on September 12, 2022, 03:15:39 PM

Quote from: Plagued on September 12, 2022, 05:22:39 AM
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Dense or ignorant? Vikernes comes from the Norwegian black metal scene where most bands (especially first and second wave) were overtly anti-christian(/Abrahamic) and Satanic. And since Judaism and Christianity are RELIGIONS, this excerpt from the book is an obvious thing. His land of Thule doesn't want Christianity or any other Abrahamic religion present. Or its followers.

Informed rather..

Vikernes apparently didn't want Christianity IRL either, hence his conviction for burning a few Christian churches down..

Red List qualifications:
"Entities who are categorized as Red may have engaged in anti-consumer behavior, ... or taken a strong political stance or alienated large portions of potential customers."

Literally Burning Christian churches.

The Red List is all about not giving money to people that hate you.

MYFAROG doesn't hate me. I guess my game won't make it on the "green list" either haha

Quote from: Plagued on September 13, 2022, 05:00:58 AM

MYFAROG doesn't hate me. I guess my game won't make it on the "green list" either haha

Why is that your end goal to make it onto a "list"? Why not focus on a quality game free of modern social and political idealogies pervading the industry as a whole.

Make a game like that and people will flock to buy it. All I want is a fantasy game berift of radical political twitter bullshit.

Nazis are gonna continuously nazi the point.

Quote from: Vampire Rabbit on September 13, 2022, 12:50:46 PM
Nazis are gonna continuously nazi the point.

That's not conducive to discussion and is off topic. Despite what the woke think, calling someone a Nazi is not a clever way of instantly winning an argument.

As for MYFAROG, why should we give the author the benefit of the doubt? He's a proud Northerner, great. But given what people have said about him, why doesn't he take a step forward and declare that he's not an anti-Semite. Also, the game is probably too small to even be on the list.

Anyone know anything about Earl of Fife Games? Their upcoming Heroes & Hardships game might be a viable alternative to GURPS.

Quote from: Rhymer88 on September 14, 2022, 09:31:29 AM
Anyone know anything about Earl of Fife Games? Their upcoming Heroes & Hardships game might be a viable alternative to GURPS.

Thanks for sharing this.  I downloaded the guide and I'll look it over.

I don't see anything immediately woke, but I'll let you know if I do.  Seems intriguing, nice simple d10 dice pool mechanic.

Quote from: Osman Gazi on September 14, 2022, 01:24:32 PM

Quote from: Rhymer88 on September 14, 2022, 09:31:29 AM
Anyone know anything about Earl of Fife Games? Their upcoming Heroes & Hardships game might be a viable alternative to GURPS.

Thanks for sharing this.  I downloaded the guide and I'll look it over.

I don't see anything immediately woke, but I'll let you know if I do.  Seems intriguing, nice simple d10 dice pool mechanic.

In their September newsletter, Earl of Fife Games announced the following:

"Runehammer Games Joins the Fight!

    The author of Index Card RPG and more joins the Heroes & Hardships Core Rulebook Kickstarter.
    Runehammer writes an adventure if certain stretch goals are met."

As far as I can tell, Runehammer has no woke content, so it might be worth considering whether it and Earl of Fife Games be added to the green section of the consumers' guide.

Runehammer is definitely outspoken on its left-wing politics though.

Quote from: mudbanks on September 15, 2022, 10:19:41 PM
Runehammer is definitely outspoken on its left-wing politics though.

He has made a few videos through the years, that I have really liked.  In general, he is not a big fan of complexity in games.  He likes to have consequences in games, so that PC decisions matter.  IC RPG doesn't really seem representative of all of his gaming content.  His open mindedness about gaming, appeals to me.  You don't have to be married to everything in the book you're using at the table.

It's noteworthy, that his first video about PF 2E was not very supportive; and he did not recommend that existing PF players run out and buy the books all over again.  Then he got flamed for not supporting the entire reboot of PF, in a form that had zero backwards compatibility....... So then he posted a second video, wherein he ate crow and then spouted about how wonderful PF 2E is.  That was my big jumping off point.  He bowed the knee to PF 2E, right after he had just said how unimpressed he was with it.

Quote from: Zaph on September 12, 2022, 06:14:31 PM
I don't own any of their products, so I don't know what changed either, but this seems like a definite statement that will impact their line. Isn't Midgard of theirs a Viking setting? Bad news for them about those guys...

I honestly had only heard about them for adventures and monsters that seemed deadlier than standard D&D 5E. Maybe they feel threatened because they're one of the highest profile 3rd party vendors?

Tome of Beasts for 5E, has been a very popular release.

Quote from: Plagued on September 13, 2022, 05:00:58 AM

Quote from: Jaeger on September 12, 2022, 03:15:39 PM

Quote from: Plagued on September 12, 2022, 05:22:39 AM
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Dense or ignorant? Vikernes comes from the Norwegian black metal scene where most bands (especially first and second wave) were overtly anti-christian(/Abrahamic) and Satanic. And since Judaism and Christianity are RELIGIONS, this excerpt from the book is an obvious thing. His land of Thule doesn't want Christianity or any other Abrahamic religion present. Or its followers.

Informed rather..

Vikernes apparently didn't want Christianity IRL either, hence his conviction for burning a few Christian churches down..

Red List qualifications:
"Entities who are categorized as Red may have engaged in anti-consumer behavior, ... or taken a strong political stance or alienated large portions of potential customers."

Literally Burning Christian churches.

The Red List is all about not giving money to people that hate you.

MYFAROG doesn't hate me. I guess my game won't make it on the "green list" either haha

Your game probably won't make it to any part of the list because you aren't noteworthy.

Quote from: Rhymer88 on September 14, 2022, 09:31:29 AM
Anyone know anything about Earl of Fife Games? Their upcoming Heroes & Hardships game might be a viable alternative to GURPS.

No, I don't think anyone ever has. So now I have to ask: are you the guy who makes these games? Or working with/for him?

Because when I hear someone just randomly asking about a hugely obscure game trying to shill daniel-style like it was something everyone already knew about, my first thought is that this is an Ad.

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 16, 2022, 05:50:05 PM

Quote from: Rhymer88 on September 14, 2022, 09:31:29 AM
Anyone know anything about Earl of Fife Games? Their upcoming Heroes & Hardships game might be a viable alternative to GURPS.

No, I don't think anyone ever has. So now I have to ask: are you the guy who makes these games? Or working with/for him?

Because when I hear someone just randomly asking about a hugely obscure game trying to shill daniel-style like it was something everyone already knew about, my first thought is that this is an Ad.

No, I have absolutely nothing to do with the company. I just came upon the planned H&H game and was thinking of perhaps supporting it, but I wanted to make sure first that they aren't some dubious/ultra-woke outfit. 

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 16, 2022, 05:50:05 PM

Quote from: Rhymer88 on September 14, 2022, 09:31:29 AM
Anyone know anything about Earl of Fife Games? Their upcoming Heroes & Hardships game might be a viable alternative to GURPS.

No, I don't think anyone ever has. So now I have to ask: are you the guy who makes these games? Or working with/for him?

Because when I hear someone just randomly asking about a hugely obscure game trying to shill daniel-style like it was something everyone already knew about, my first thought is that this is an Ad.

For what it's worth, I have.  I bought their Fear Factory V adventure earlier this year.  My group enjoyed it and I had planned to check out H&H.  Past that, I can't really say much about them as a company.

I'd say if there's not a lot of information about a company that's probably an okay sign. Usually if a company, or employees of the company, are woke enough to matter they can't help but spout their vitriol. So, if after a bit of digging,you can't find anything that would suggest their politics it's probably a sign that they at least have the sense to keep it separate from business.