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[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Started by Ocule, August 03, 2021, 12:26:41 PM

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palaeomerus

#2370
Not the rpgs. Their 2000AD board game Helter Skelter is fun as is Wildlands.  I recommend their blue-book table top wargame splats pretty whole heartedly and maeny of their hardback wargame/warband campaign books are good.
Scrappers(post apocalypse), Dracula's America(Supernatural Horror Western.civil war), Frostgrave (warband combat compaign), Ragnarok(Norse myth warband compaign), Gaslands(Dystopian Car combat), Edge of Reality(Cyberpunk Warband), Mad Dogs with Guns(Prohibition gangsters), Stargrave(Space warband salvage combat), Gamma Wolves(Robot combat) Tomorrow's War(Sci-fi platoon combat), Bolt Action(WW2 platoon combat), Her Majesty's Service(Steampunk Warband), Oathmark(Fantasy Armies), Last Days(Zombie Survival warband campaign), Black Ops(Squad based spies vs. Mercs), Zona Alpha( S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S. in Chernobyl), Rogue Stars(Space warband campaign), A Billion Suns(Space fleet with support units), Kobolds & Cobblestones (Steam gas and gears fantasy street gangs campaign where you can have hobbits and trolls run a corner ) are all pretty good if a bit samey in layout and format.

The rpgs are Jackals (bronze age), Paleomythic (a stone age fantasy rpg ), Those Dark Places (a game about being in space which is dangerous), Romance of the Perilous Land (British/Celtic/Migration era role playing), Sigil & Shadow (urban fantasy horror focused on magic) I think they have an esoteric kung fu swordsman game too.

I don't know a lot about them.  Just the wargames some of which had ad ons and many are a single book.
Emery

Rhymer88

Quote from: horsesoldier on February 02, 2022, 11:30:09 AM
So...Does anyone have experience with these Osprey products beyond basic knowledge gleaned from looking at their website?

I have Jackals, which is a pseudo-Middle Eastern bronze age setting. It uses a kind of d100 lite rules system. The characters come from various human cultures (based on the ancient Egyptians, Hebrews, Greeks, etc.) and basically go around fighting against demonic forces and plundering ancient sites. It reminds me a bit of Runequest.

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: Rhymer88 on February 03, 2022, 05:00:47 AM
Quote from: horsesoldier on February 02, 2022, 11:30:09 AM
So...Does anyone have experience with these Osprey products beyond basic knowledge gleaned from looking at their website?

I have Jackals, which is a pseudo-Middle Eastern bronze age setting. It uses a kind of d100 lite rules system. The characters come from various human cultures (based on the ancient Egyptians, Hebrews, Greeks, etc.) and basically go around fighting against demonic forces and plundering ancient sites. It reminds me a bit of Runequest.

Sounds pretty good...

mudbanks

Osprey is good with wargames, as these tend to be more grognardy in nature and therefore attract a more conservative (read: less insane) crowd. It's probably bolstered by their sale of historical/military books that have been on their webstore for the longest time. With board games and RPGs, well since they tend to attract more weirdos, especially the latter, I guess there's bound to be more injection of woke stuff.

oggsmash

Quote from: Rhymer88 on February 03, 2022, 05:00:47 AM
Quote from: horsesoldier on February 02, 2022, 11:30:09 AM
So...Does anyone have experience with these Osprey products beyond basic knowledge gleaned from looking at their website?

I have Jackals, which is a pseudo-Middle Eastern bronze age setting. It uses a kind of d100 lite rules system. The characters come from various human cultures (based on the ancient Egyptians, Hebrews, Greeks, etc.) and basically go around fighting against demonic forces and plundering ancient sites. It reminds me a bit of Runequest.

   Have you played it much?  I have only read it (and though I read it thoroughly, it has been a few months) and I was curious how the clashes and combat played out at the table in real time. 

MadCarthos

Thank you so much for putting this list together! It got me to join the board and hopefully find people who are more into gaming and less into politics and virtue signaling (and attacking others based on their political views).

I am ashamed to admit that I did buy into Five Torches Deep before I realized it was highly politicized in places, and I still like the rule set. As well as Sharp Swords and Sinister Spells. I don't really care for the ruleset of SS&SS, but I love the feeling of the world from the random tables. (Sword and Sorcery OSR). And it does make it kind of easy to roll up enemy monsters on the spot.

I've looked a little into the Osprey games. It seems like Romance of the Perilous Land is strongly based on D&D 5e. I haven't purchased it but it doesn't seem like it has any overtly political messaging in it.

One upcoming TTRPG I am 95% sure will make the green list is Age of Barbarian being made by the same company behind the computer game.

Could someone remind me which of the green list games lists Rules 0 and 1 as "The DM's game." and "If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong." or something like that?

Thornhammer

Quote from: MadCarthos on February 04, 2022, 10:34:33 PM
One upcoming TTRPG I am 95% sure will make the green list is Age of Barbarian being made by the same company behind the computer game.

They have the 80s barbarian movie vibe down, that's for sure.

And to me, that's an integral part of the sword and sorcery experience. Conan with modestly dressed people just ain't right.

S'mon

Gallant Knight Games (Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, the Tiny RPGs) Partnered with Diogo Nogueira. Has a strong relationship with Diogo as far as I know but I can't find examples of them actually doing anything wrong other than that.

I came across this in their Harassment policy https://www.gallantknightgames.com/con-harassment-policy/

Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
Verbal comments that reinforce social structures of domination


That Marxist verbiage is their top definition of harassment, above
Sexual images in public spaces
Deliberate intimidation, stalking, or following
Harassing photography or recording
Sustained disruption of talks or other events
Inappropriate physical contact
Unwelcome sexual attention
Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior
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The Comedian

Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2022, 08:51:02 AM
Gallant Knight Games (Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, the Tiny RPGs) Partnered with Diogo Nogueira. Has a strong relationship with Diogo as far as I know but I can't find examples of them actually doing anything wrong other than that.

I came across this in their Harassment policy https://www.gallantknightgames.com/con-harassment-policy/

Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
Verbal comments that reinforce social structures of domination


That Marxist verbiage is their top definition of harassment, above
Sexual images in public spaces
Deliberate intimidation, stalking, or following
Harassing photography or recording
Sustained disruption of talks or other events
Inappropriate physical contact
Unwelcome sexual attention
Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior



Sounds like another Blue-Haired Land Whale company

dkabq

Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2022, 08:51:02 AM
Gallant Knight Games (Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, the Tiny RPGs) Partnered with Diogo Nogueira. Has a strong relationship with Diogo as far as I know but I can't find examples of them actually doing anything wrong other than that.

I came across this in their Harassment policy https://www.gallantknightgames.com/con-harassment-policy/

Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
Verbal comments that reinforce social structures of domination


That Marxist verbiage is their top definition of harassment, above
Sexual images in public spaces
Deliberate intimidation, stalking, or following
Harassing photography or recording
Sustained disruption of talks or other events
Inappropriate physical contact
Unwelcome sexual attention
Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior


Except for that "...reinforce social structures of domination" crap, I pretty much agree with the remaining definitions. YMMV.

Cat the Bounty Smuggler

Quote from: dkabq on February 05, 2022, 10:46:02 AM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2022, 08:51:02 AM
Gallant Knight Games (Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, the Tiny RPGs) Partnered with Diogo Nogueira. Has a strong relationship with Diogo as far as I know but I can't find examples of them actually doing anything wrong other than that.

I came across this in their Harassment policy https://www.gallantknightgames.com/con-harassment-policy/

Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
Verbal comments that reinforce social structures of domination


That Marxist verbiage is their top definition of harassment, above
Sexual images in public spaces
Deliberate intimidation, stalking, or following
Harassing photography or recording
Sustained disruption of talks or other events
Inappropriate physical contact
Unwelcome sexual attention
Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior


Except for that "...reinforce social structures of domination" crap, I pretty much agree with the remaining definitions. YMMV.

Agreed, although it does concern me that "advocating for... any of the above" could be interpreted to include "Openly disagreeing with this policy or how we apply it."

The Comedian

Quote from: dkabq on February 05, 2022, 10:46:02 AM
Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2022, 08:51:02 AM
Gallant Knight Games (Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, the Tiny RPGs) Partnered with Diogo Nogueira. Has a strong relationship with Diogo as far as I know but I can't find examples of them actually doing anything wrong other than that.

I came across this in their Harassment policy https://www.gallantknightgames.com/con-harassment-policy/

Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
Verbal comments that reinforce social structures of domination


That Marxist verbiage is their top definition of harassment, above
Sexual images in public spaces
Deliberate intimidation, stalking, or following
Harassing photography or recording
Sustained disruption of talks or other events
Inappropriate physical contact
Unwelcome sexual attention
Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior


Except for that "...reinforce social structures of domination" crap, I pretty much agree with the remaining definitions. YMMV.

Disagree the "Sustained disruption of talks or events" seems the standard SJW way of blocking people they dont agree with out of a conversation...

Ive been at small local cons where the sjw's would use something similar, to stamp out people arguing lore of a game system theyve played for years, the sjw disagrees/doesnt fit their version of what they think the lore should be...and wham..."Theyre disrupting"...

S'mon

Quote from: dkabq on February 05, 2022, 10:46:02 AM
Except for that "...reinforce social structures of domination" crap, I pretty much agree with the remaining definitions. YMMV.

No, I agree with you.
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Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: S'mon on February 05, 2022, 08:51:02 AM
Gallant Knight Games (Sharp Swords & Sinister Spells, the Tiny RPGs) Partnered with Diogo Nogueira. Has a strong relationship with Diogo as far as I know but I can't find examples of them actually doing anything wrong other than that.

I came across this in their Harassment policy https://www.gallantknightgames.com/con-harassment-policy/

Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
Verbal comments that reinforce social structures of domination


That Marxist verbiage is their top definition of harassment, above
Sexual images in public spaces
Deliberate intimidation, stalking, or following
Harassing photography or recording
Sustained disruption of talks or other events
Inappropriate physical contact
Unwelcome sexual attention
Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior


A lot of virtue signaling gibberish which pretty much can be summed up by one simple concept: 'Don't be a dick'. Which to be fair, all decent poeple should follow. As I said all that nonsense is just for 'optics' imo.


Rob Necronomicon

Here's another question.

So if a company uses some kind of 'sensitivity consultant' (or some such equivalent). Should they be automatically listed as one of the shitty companies?