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5e: Alignment Strikes Back

Started by HappyDaze, October 04, 2021, 12:18:31 PM

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HappyDaze

October 04, 2021, 12:18:31 PM
Killed a bit of time in a local bookstore thumbing through The Wild Beyond the Witchlight adventure by WotC.

Contrary to some rumors, the monsters seem to feature alignment, but often preceeded by the word "typically" such as "typically chaotic evil." There were also named NPCs, including some oldies like Kelek the sorcereror, Ringlerun the wizard, Warduke the fashionably impaired, and more. All of these NPCs had alignments listed (without the "typically" bit, so apparently individual variations or waverings are still unstated just as they often have been).

Also, no signs of wheelchairs anywhere in the book that I could find on a 40-min flip-through.

rytrasmi

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October 04, 2021, 12:31:38 PM
40 minutes? This is not a library buddy, buy something or get out.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
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Be merry

HappyDaze

#2
October 04, 2021, 12:45:26 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on October 04, 2021, 12:31:38 PM
40 minutes? This is not a library buddy, buy something or get out.
Oh, I did buy a few novels, but I don't buy my game books from there, and I don't buy 5e stuff anymore at all.

Mishihari

#3
October 04, 2021, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on October 04, 2021, 12:31:38 PM
40 minutes? This is not a library buddy, buy something or get out.

I generally don't buy a game book unless I've read most of it.  How else can I tell if it's something I'd want to play?  Fortunately I read very, very fast.

Kanyenya

#4
October 04, 2021, 09:51:29 PM
Crawford talks about alignment here:

https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/sage-advice/creature-evolutions

Essentially, alignment is back, but will be preceded with the word "typically", because some people can't figure that out for themselves. Except for humanoids, who can be any alignment, to prevent racism or something.

DM_Curt

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October 04, 2021, 11:26:41 PM
Quote from: Kanyenya on October 04, 2021, 09:51:29 PM
Crawford talks about alignment here:

https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/sage-advice/creature-evolutions

Essentially, alignment is back, but will be preceded with the word "typically", because some people can't figure that out for themselves. Except for humanoids, who can be any alignment, to prevent racism or something.

Lol. Crawford almost understands D&D.

jhkim

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October 05, 2021, 12:47:28 AM
Quote from: Kanyenya on October 04, 2021, 09:51:29 PM
Essentially, alignment is back, but will be preceded with the word "typically", because some people can't figure that out for themselves. Except for humanoids, who can be any alignment, to prevent racism or something.

That's how alignment was in 3rd edition. All the monster alignments were listed as things like "Always chaotic evil" (for demons) or "Usually lawful neutral" (for material monsters) and such. They went back to unqualified alignment originally in 5th ed, but I guess they're reviving that style.

Eirikrautha

#7
October 05, 2021, 06:45:34 AM
Quote from: DM_Curt on October 04, 2021, 11:26:41 PM
Quote from: Kanyenya on October 04, 2021, 09:51:29 PM
Crawford talks about alignment here:

https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/sage-advice/creature-evolutions

Essentially, alignment is back, but will be preceded with the word "typically", because some people can't figure that out for themselves. Except for humanoids, who can be any alignment, to prevent racism or something.

Lol. Crawford almost understands D&D.
No, no he doesn't...
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Omega

#8
October 06, 2021, 04:21:21 PM
I probably still have most of the action figures from way back.
Warduke, Strongheart, Ringlerun, Kelek, Peralay, and Zerak.

Too bad they couldnt get Tim Truman to do the art again.

tenbones

#9
October 07, 2021, 11:31:47 AM
NECA is making new versions of those figures.

If this is "alignment striking back" - it's as limpdick of a "strike" as I would expect.

ArtemisAlpha

#10
October 07, 2021, 04:51:26 PM
Demons. Usually Chaotic Evil. Usually.

See "Falls From Grace" as a counter example.

Shasarak

#11
October 07, 2021, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: ArtemisAlpha on October 07, 2021, 04:51:26 PM
Demons. Usually Chaotic Evil. Usually.

See "Falls From Grace" as a counter example.

If you divide the number of good Demons by the infinite number of evil Demons then the number of Demons that are evil is closer to always then usually.

But you know maths is hard.
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pathetically struggling,
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GeekyBugle

#12
October 07, 2021, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on October 07, 2021, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: ArtemisAlpha on October 07, 2021, 04:51:26 PM
Demons. Usually Chaotic Evil. Usually.

See "Falls From Grace" as a counter example.

If you divide the number of good Demons by the infinite number of evil Demons then the number of Demons that are evil is closer to always then usually.

But you know maths is hard.

LOL, best response in this subject ever. Also a Good Demon isn't a Demon anymore, period.
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Wrath of God

#13
October 16, 2021, 07:30:04 AM
QuoteAlso a Good Demon isn't a Demon anymore, period.

What about Lawful Demon?
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With great vengeance and furious anger"

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DM_Curt

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October 16, 2021, 07:40:18 AM
Quote from: Wrath of God on October 16, 2021, 07:30:04 AM
QuoteAlso a Good Demon isn't a Demon anymore, period.

What about Lawful Demon?
That's a Devil, then. 
Slightly fewer mindless homicidal rampages, but more bureaucracy. Possibly followed by intentional homicidal rampages.
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