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[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Started by Ocule, August 03, 2021, 12:26:41 PM

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SHARK

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on September 07, 2021, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
"Who cares what Twitter thinks?"

Uh, literally you since you're on this forum right now bitching about it and posting a Red list of companies you hate primarily because they were dicks to you on Twitter.

If it was not for Twitter then where would we source our Leftist tears from?

I mean, Big Purple, Enworld, and Reddit are solid sources are they not?

Greetings!

It's so sad how EN World has drank deep from the SJW Koolaid. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

PonchoGoblin

Quote from: rando on September 07, 2021, 06:14:14 PM
Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: rando on September 07, 2021, 12:53:51 PM
Hi All,
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- rando
First of all, most of the "horror stories" in the RPG Horror Stories sub are false, with multiple people writing multiple a week just to gain Karma.

Oh c'mon.  It can't all be crap.  They've been writing volumes of it in that subreddit for years now.  Almost 99% of it is about D&D too.  They rarely talk
about other RPGs...just every now and then you hear about interesting homebrews that went south.  I honestly think a lot of these stories are from when
they were kids or in their 20s.  I think quite a few people in their early 20s are still kids.

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The context of the Monte Cook consent form was not for convention games, because most cons if you run at them don't allow you to even broach taboo topics unless it is specifically a horror game in a lot of cases (in which case, what are you doing playing it if you need to be protected from those kinds of thoughts?). The context and intent was to try and push it on people's home games, particularly forcing them to include "that guy" types who would try to make Mary Sue esque characters, along with the inclusion of multiple "session 0s" which is unnecessary unless you are trying to force politics (I only ever have one for initial character creation in a new system). Likewise, why would you need a form to go off about pronouns if you actually believed in what you said? Then wouldn't it just be easier to talk directly?

I'm sorry but I don't know what "multiple session 0s" are.  In somebody's home game, nobody is going to do this.  Maybe if it has to do with underage kids playing and you and I both know that such problem content would never come up.  My only conclusion would be that it was made for K-12 students and/or total strangers (perhaps online).  Aside from it being free, it's entirely optional.  You don't have to download it or use it. 

It's not in those beautiful hardbacks of an incredibly creative setting that I paid good money for. lol.  Is it red?  I would say it isn't.  I suppose it could be yellow for the pandering "Consent" freebie...but it's not anything and it came in after the setting was already fleshed out and released, so how can Numenera have the SJW taint from the guy who made Book of Vile Darkness? lol.  Alls I'm saying is that it seems extreme to be red.

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Also, Evil Hat is one of the worst purveyors of this kinda stuff to the point where I think Fred Hicks has absolutely lost it (which is a shame, met him before all the GG craziness and he was actually a fairly nice fellow).

Edit: typo fixes, I hate being on a mobile

Maybe so, but I hadn't noticed.  I wouldn't have known about EH politics if I hadn't seen the list.  I'm not really interested in their other materials they have at this point.  Nothing enticing.

-rando

I'm not saying Monte Cook himself's work isn't bad (I too quite like Numenera) nor does it mean you need to stop supporting him or his company if you so please. The list is a suggestion to give thought about where your money goes once you part with it. Likewise, as far as Monte Cook is concerned, while he hasn't shown much woke, Shanna Germain VERY much is and she has a decently large say in the company and it's direction. Likewise, look at Shanna's work instead, and it is all very much done through a political lense.

As for the RPG horror stories sub, there is a reason why mods are starting to call people out more for fake stories.

As for evil hat, that's what happens when politics consume your company. Shame too, I was one of the early adopters of Fate Core and for a time quite liked it (although I've moved on to more crunchy systems since, and stopped trying to cram everything into a generic system)
Forever GM that owns way too many books.

PonchoGoblin

Quote from: SHARK on September 07, 2021, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on September 07, 2021, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
"Who cares what Twitter thinks?"

Uh, literally you since you're on this forum right now bitching about it and posting a Red list of companies you hate primarily because they were dicks to you on Twitter.

If it was not for Twitter then where would we source our Leftist tears from?

I mean, Big Purple, Enworld, and Reddit are solid sources are they not?

Greetings!

It's so sad how EN World has drank deep from the SJW Koolaid. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

It really is Shark  :'( I quite liked it for discussing stuff back in the 3e days and for sharing hordes of homebrew
Forever GM that owns way too many books.

SHARK

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: SHARK on September 07, 2021, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on September 07, 2021, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
"Who cares what Twitter thinks?"

Uh, literally you since you're on this forum right now bitching about it and posting a Red list of companies you hate primarily because they were dicks to you on Twitter.

If it was not for Twitter then where would we source our Leftist tears from?

I mean, Big Purple, Enworld, and Reddit are solid sources are they not?

Greetings!

It's so sad how EN World has drank deep from the SJW Koolaid. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

It really is Shark  :'( I quite liked it for discussing stuff back in the 3e days and for sharing hordes of homebrew

Greetings!

Very true, PonchoGoblin! Years and years ago, I was a regular member and poster on EN World. Back in those days, the place was full of talented, cool, smart people that loved gaming. The only real annoying thing was the "Grandma Rule" where they wanted us to keep our speech "Grandma friendly". While annoying, it was livable. Then, over and over again, I hear about new lists of banned words that people cannot use, that have nothing to do with vulgarity or rough speech--it seems entirely aimed at forbidding speech, terms, and slang that crybaby SJW Liberals get their fee fees hurt over. THEN, I noticed that EN World started officially hosting weekly columns written by rabid fucktard SJW's. And upon reading various threads, the site seems to also have become overrun by Leftist fucktards and SJW's. Of course, all of the SJW's there love to gangbang anyone that is Conservative, and the then angered Conservatives of course can't fight back against the SJW mob because the Moderators will banhammer them. I saw that several times, and thought, well, fuck that. I'm not kneeling to any fucktard SJW's like that, whether they are members of the site or the moderators, or the fucking owner of the site. It was an easy choice to look elsewhere, my friend. The RPGsite here is very good, with lots of great members!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Mishihari

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: SHARK on September 07, 2021, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on September 07, 2021, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
"Who cares what Twitter thinks?"

Uh, literally you since you're on this forum right now bitching about it and posting a Red list of companies you hate primarily because they were dicks to you on Twitter.

If it was not for Twitter then where would we source our Leftist tears from?

I mean, Big Purple, Enworld, and Reddit are solid sources are they not?

Greetings!

It's so sad how EN World has drank deep from the SJW Koolaid. >:(

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

It really is Shark  :'( I quite liked it for discussing stuff back in the 3e days and for sharing hordes of homebrew

One upon a time ENWorld was a GREAT place for discussing RPGs, then Morrus ruined it.  The no religion, no politics rule was annoying at times, but functional for keeping everyone focused on RPG discussions.  Then Morrus decided that his personal politics were actually facts, not politics.  When he made an actual rule that you're allowed to make political posts that he agreed with but not that he disagreed with, I saw the writing on the wall and bailed.

Ratman_tf

I think the idea that people can say "No" and walk away from this nonsense is what's got the woke twitterverse all upset.
Keeping people quiet and submissive worked for a long while. But that tactic is crumbling around their ears.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Tait Ransom

Quote from: Banjo Destructo on September 07, 2021, 09:49:06 AM
I feel a little bad about Goodman Games, they seem cool, but I have been noticing they've been getting more pressure from SJW's about inclusivity, and they might start bowing to that, or pay some kind of lip service to it.

And they've made donations to NAACP in honor of BLM.
https://goodman-games.com/blog/2020/06/17/charity-donation-from-dcc-days-online/

Bummer.  I just started getting their stuff.

Rob Necronomicon

#817
Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 07, 2021, 08:15:12 PM
I think the idea that people can say "No" and walk away from this nonsense is what's got the woke twitterverse all upset.
Keeping people quiet and submissive worked for a long while. But that tactic is crumbling around their ears.

Indeed! I think people are realizing that all the emotional blackmail while giving you a 'harsh' virtual finger wag is laughable. These man-babies only have the power when you give it to them. The truth is it's all hot air. Laugh at them, block them and write more games you know they'd hate.

And then enjoy a hot bath of sjw censorship tears. Ahhhhhh.....  ;D

oggsmash

Quote from: Tait Ransom on September 07, 2021, 08:20:24 PM
Quote from: Banjo Destructo on September 07, 2021, 09:49:06 AM
I feel a little bad about Goodman Games, they seem cool, but I have been noticing they've been getting more pressure from SJW's about inclusivity, and they might start bowing to that, or pay some kind of lip service to it.

And they've made donations to NAACP in honor of BLM.
https://goodman-games.com/blog/2020/06/17/charity-donation-from-dcc-days-online/

Bummer.  I just started getting their stuff.

  Well, I am not sure how woke they are...and from what I have of their stuff, I really do not need anything ever again to enjoy what I have.   Never know, the wind may blow another direction, or enough that people decide to not get political or let their politics be known.    IMO... I say this not knowing of any sort of off the rails statements by them, enjoy their stuff (assuming DCC here).

Shasarak

People that think therpgsite is shit continue to think therpgsite is shit.

Other news at 11
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

oggsmash

  Yeah not sure why anyone would care what people who already dislike them say bad about them.   I can say, there are folks who end up in the red I wont buy from, or who by their actions to be red, stopped me from buying more from them.   Can't it just be that, like kids who do not get along, they stay in their yard, we play in our yard and be done with it?

ArtemisWyrm

Anybody know if Warlord Games (makers of Bolt Action) are cool?

palaeomerus

Goodman Games is in Santa Clara, CA (Lost boys) and the donation was from the summer of 2020 so they might have been pressured to make that donation in some way that is more than just people on the phone telling they are going to do it. BLM was hitting the streets and giving restaurants shakedown letters at that time and no one was doing a damned thing about it so maybe it felt like Bronx Concerned Neighbor Fire Insurance to them. 
Emery

palaeomerus

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 07, 2021, 08:51:18 PM
Anybody know if Warlord Games (makers of Bolt Action) are cool?

I would expect them to be cool but on the left for the most part just not militant about it. No real info though. They show up on Beasts of War/On table Top a lot. They do minis games though, not big on RPGs.
Emery

palaeomerus

#824
This was supposed to be added to the prior post but I hit reply instead of modify. My bad. Didn't notice until I hit "send" so sorry about that.


Considering that Warlord sell models of actual wehrmacht and luftwaffe machines and paint for them (or did they just have a deal with Vallejo like FoW did?) and do WW2 games I'd bet they need to come off as a little bit "comfortably" left so they don't get accused of gorifying fascism in this "era" of book burning and canceling and statue destroying and brand renaming.

Their sci-fi game Beyond the Antares has some guys who are pretty much a new take on the daleks called the Ghar who are pale totalitarian genocidal xenophobic mutants who live in their battle armor, two branches of the same AI controlled interstellar empire, one of which got hacked in a war with space bugs so got all weird, which made them enemies to the original branch only they both know about the problem so they just avoid one another to prevent pointless fights, some mobster rock people who do mining and tame monsters, and some shifty mercantile space truckers who also do mercenary work and look like something Moebius would draw.  There are also some scaly militaristic lizardy dudes who are caught in between the ai human space empire and the ghar who are trying to keep both out of their hair...uh...crests? And they all have flying tanks and drones and they fight.

Only bad thing is some of the armies are mostly metal and a lot of the vehicles are resin with metal parts so that makes them a little expensive and fragile apart from expensive in the GW sense. They come in cheaper than that. They also have a Weird War II game compatible with Bolt Action called Konflikt 47 which is pretty neat. Again though more resin and metal than Italerie plastic models.

The armies of Antares tend to be set up a lot like Mantic's Warpath armies or the Imperial Guard or Tau armies of 40K so they can be good crossover fodder for game like that.

What I mean by this is you have troops, elite troops, some armored hazardous drop troops, assault troops with close range weapons, an ATV equivalent, a tank equivalent, a heavier tank, something like a mototcycle, something like a jeep with a machine gun on it, some crew served support weapon teams both anti-personnel and anti-armor, some field artillery, and some characters and commanders. In the case of the rock men these things may be giant monsters ridden by guys with explosive drill lances or something because sci-fi gotta be weird.

I think Antares might make great role playing as the sci-fi sometimes gets absurd. They had a bit in one scenario book where the leader of the Pan Human Concordate forces (who are directed by AIs with nanomachines that lets them have the internet in their head and makes them nearly immortal if you consider a clone replacement survival) was trying to get the Freeborn Spacer merc commander to sign a form allowing himself to be arrested and detained and when he refuses the Pan Human leader starts doing a London Cop routine on him" Oh you think you're a smart one do you? Well...we'll get you to sign that form one way or the other Sunny Jim, just you see if we don't...my son, my son..." It's ridiculous but played very straight.
Emery