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Raggi Nearly Broke

Started by Joethelawyer, July 13, 2020, 05:01:16 PM

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GameDaddy

Quote from: Luca;1139714BTW, you have it the wrong way around. Raggi has never thrown anyone under the bus, HE was the one thrown under the bus at various times by various people (including Zak) for various "offenses" (in Zak's case, it was because Raggi dared to post a photo of himself alongside Jordan Peterson, never mind the context was not even political but Raggi fangirling over Peterson due to his book on self help, of all things).

Exactly this. The SJW threw him under the bus quite awhile ago for continuing to hang out with us politically incorrect OSR people.
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Quote from: S'mon;1139665He's always had a very archaic business model, with physical print runs (not Kickstarted). Maybe something to do with how Finland supports small businesses. It is great for getting product onto FLGS shelves - but terrible for the Age of Corona.

I would imagine they'd have to. Stock management, especially when government treats your inventory as something taxable, is a real pain.

"Dark Age of China" isn't doing POD much good either. DriveThruRPG has been quoting printing times of 23 or so days after the order arrives at the printing facility.
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I feel sad for him. :( Times are tough for everybody and we each do as we can. I hope we can do what we can for each other as well. :) /hugs, but very metal, masculine hugs :p
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Raggi is the walking penis monster and homosexual orgy guy, right?

Classy. Middle school?

Can't believe he's not making bank on that avant-garde brilliancy.

That's exactly what I want to run at my table.

Guy obviously has problems. More than just money problems.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Joethelawyer;1139556Fuck. For all the other Ref Book backers, looks like if we don't want our $33,338 loan to never get repaid nor yield a Ref Book, we'd better buy some shit from LOTFP. Link below to what Erik is talking about in his Podcast. Read it, especially the end part.

https://lotfp.blogspot.com/2020/07/new-releases-tomorrow-monday-july-13.html

Also, Erik Tenkar's podcast about it here:

https://anchor.fm/tavernchat/episodes/E772---LotFP-is-Over-100k-in-Debt---Doors-May-Close-by-End-of-Summer-egmr32/a-a3grn3

How fucked up is it that you find yourself in the position to have to buy crap from Raggi in order to help ensure he produces the shit you paid for 8 year ago, with no guarantee that your purchase will even get you what you're already owed?

Never ever back up a kickstarter campaign that doesn't have the full game minus art in a pdf ready to be sent to all it's backers from the get go.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

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Trinculoisdead

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1139764Never ever back up a kickstarter campaign that doesn't have the full game minus art in a pdf ready to be sent to all it's backers from the get go.

Unless...

There are scenarios in which a Kickstarter does not have these things yet, but it is still just fine to back it anyway. Like, for example, when the person doing the Kickstarter has already done several successfully in the past. The recent Wolves of God, for example, was not finished when the Kickstarter began. And prints are now set to be shipped out next month, well ahead of schedule.

Omega

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Quote from: The Exploited.;1139683Digital is the way forward pdfs first.

Swanky hardback books are expensive to produce and then to post them out costs even more.

Sometimes its the problem of paying post... Twice. This I learned when I was in publishing. So I picked up the print at the printer.

This is an unforeseen problem of using say Drive-thru as a KS fulfillment service. Either you have to take a huge cut from them and fulfill straight to the backers. Or you take less a cut. But have to pay shipping twice.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Trinculoisdead;1139804Unless...

There are scenarios in which a Kickstarter does not have these things yet, but it is still just fine to back it anyway. Like, for example, when the person doing the Kickstarter has already done several successfully in the past. The recent Wolves of God, for example, was not finished when the Kickstarter began. And prints are now set to be shipped out next month, well ahead of schedule.

Even so there's a risk in backing it, albeit a much lesser risk.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Spinachcat

I suspect Raggi will survive and eventually thrive again. Probably have to bankrupt his company, light a bunch of bridges on fire, and start from scratch again. But that's the nature of being a self-employed business owner. Even the most successful have experienced a few painful stumbles.


Quote from: Simlasa;1139688Zak has talent.

So does RPGPundit. Lion & Dragon is excellent work.

Not as groundbreakingly amazing as Pundy's Gnomemurdered RPG, but still quite excellent. :D  


Quote from: GameDaddy;1139694I have actually seen this before

GameDaddy, thank you for that excellent breakdown. It's amazing how a few mismanagement steps can cascade and destroy a successful company, but it's the nature of business.


Quote from: Opaopajr;1139751/hugs, but very metal, masculine hugs :p

Halford hugs!!!

jeff37923

Quote from: GameDaddy;1139694GDW (Game Designers Workshop) that opted to close before going too deeply in debt in order to continue their business operations. This was the original publisher of the Traveller RPG by the way.

Yeah, that had absolutely nothing to do with the lawsuit TSR filed against them over Gygax jumping ship to do Lejendary Journeys in your eyes, did it?
"Meh."

The Exploited.

Quote from: Omega;1139823Sometimes its the problem of paying post... Twice. This I learned when I was in publishing. So I picked up the print at the printer.

This is an unforeseen problem of using say Drive-thru as a KS fulfillment service. Either you have to take a huge cut from them and fulfill straight to the backers. Or you take less a cut. But have to pay shipping twice.

That sucks... I know drivethru take a hefty cut. As I sell some of my artwork there.Postage price, here is Ireland is vicious.

Personally, I'd only ever offer 'digital' rewards. I know this would put off a certain % of your potential customers, but I just wouldn't want to deal with the hassle. Also, when you start adding up the prices for hiring people that's going to be very hefty. Luckily, all my stuff would be done by me and my GF who would do the layout/editing/design (she and I are both professionals - so that's a big help).
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The Exploited.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1139846So does RPGPundit. Lion & Dragon is excellent work.

Re. Zak and talent. I do think he's quite talented. But I just don't like his style all that much. I mean, it's a bit too fantastical for my taste, that's only because I tend to like more grounded stuff. That's one of the reasons I like Pundit's work - it's pretty much inline with my own style of gaming, especially Lion and Dragon (and some of the Pundit's presents low fantasy adventure stuff).

However, I did back that horror game that Zak did. I can't remember the title, demon city? Or ground? Looking forward to seeing his take on horror.
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RPGPundit

Quote from: Simlasa;1139688Zak has talent.

A talent at pretending to be really edgy and punk, and hope that covers up for products that are half full of useless gimmickry and filler with incoherent setting or structure.
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Quote from: S'mon;1139690You're not edgy enough. I bet there's not a single vagina monster on the cover of ANY of your books!

Correct.
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Quote from: GameDaddy;1139694I have actually seen this before, Not that part where he teamed up with Zak and ended up in an SJW trainwreck when sexual politics interfered with the growth of his gaming company, but the part where he goes into debt to finance business growth. This last part is pretty much a no-no in any business, and has been historically especially lethal for small to mid-sized gaming companies

True!

Incidentally, I'm 100% debt free, and the product (and line that derived from it) that Raggi passed on bought me a two-bedroom house.
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