Pathfinder 2E Announces Bestiary 2

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Over 350 monsters are being added to Pathfinder Second Edition next year. Earlier this week, Paizo announced the Pathfinder Bestiary 2, which will be released in April of next year. The new publication will contain hundreds of new monsters, including classic creatures like the serpentfolk and jabberwock, returning favorites like the primal dragons and the Sandpoint Devil, to new monsters that have never appeared before in a Pathfinder book. Paizo also released the new Wayne Reynolds cover for Pathfinder Bestiary 2, which contains new versions of serpentfolk, morlocks, and a ghostly looking dragon.

Quote from: Shasarak;1101663Pathfinder 2E Announces Bestiary 2

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Over 350 monsters are being added to Pathfinder Second Edition next year. Earlier this week, Paizo announced the Pathfinder Bestiary 2, which will be released in April of next year. The new publication will contain hundreds of new monsters, including classic creatures like the serpentfolk and jabberwock, returning favorites like the primal dragons and the Sandpoint Devil, to new monsters that have never appeared before in a Pathfinder book. Paizo also released the new Wayne Reynolds cover for Pathfinder Bestiary 2, which contains new versions of serpentfolk, morlocks, and a ghostly looking dragon.

The Ravener, perhaps?  The Dracolich, of Pathfinder.

Power Attack is really a great feat, probably one of the best in the early game.

You can't really consider multi action moves to be "missed" attacks because the multi attack penalty is severe. Your average PF2 character has less of a chance to hit an even level mob with their second attack than a 1st level D&D 5e player has of hitting endgame monsters.

If you play your cards right, your Fighter will often be critting on a 16 or even lower. So quite a high chance of getting a "home run" power attack critical hit.

So is that your automatic, must pick feat for a lv 1 Fighter? Not really. For a damage boosting feat, Double Slice might be a better choice if you want to use a shield (with spikes or boss) or dual wield. You'll do more consistent damage with fewer huge home runs.  

Both of those cost two actions so you aren't going to be able to use them every turn, especially moving 4 spaces per action and potentially needing to raise your shield. Sudden Charge gives you 3 actions worth of power (two moves and one strike) for 2 actions which makes it a very viable choice especially for a shield user.

Flanking (or more specifically, making an enemy flat footed) plays a major role in deciding the outcome of a battle so it is a high priority. If all of your buddies use shooting or are otherwise unwilling to flank, Snagging Strike is a useful tool to get that bonus for yourself and them.

The other L1 Fighter feats aren't that great at first level but eventually provide a real value as you level up and combine them with other feats. I can see that the feats might look weak/boring if you haven't tried the system yet. It all does make a lot of difference on the tabletop, especially as you level up. The 2 handed DPS warrior lives by the sword and dies by it. The tank warrior with multiple shield blocks has many, many extra hit points and does not go down easy. The balanced dual wielder is weaker than both but consistently "good", and plenty viable for the game. The tactician with an arsenal of weapons might be the best overall, but will never be as good at all niches as a Fighter with a dedicated style.

I've been getting a kick out of a lot of these replies. While I would definitely not consider myself a "fanboy" or presume to represent "most" PF players, I'd say I've played my share of RPGs, lol. I wasn't sitting in Gary's basement in my polyester slacks at the very beginning but I'm not too far off that. I think its a decent, well considered system. Who knew people would be this invested in not liking a different set of combat rules? I don't get it.

Regarding success or lack of, there is no disaffected D&D playerbase to poach from this time, so taking a big chunk of their market share doesn't seem like a realistic goal. If they can pay all their bills and make 15% more money than they made last year, I'd consider that a win. Its not just the sale of one book. Did this release increase the number of $150 6 part adventures they can sell? Do they sell more battlemats with the grid focused system? Would they have been better off introducing Spyfinder or Zombiefinder or some other new system, and continuing to put out PF1 material? I don't know the answer to that.

Quote from: Conanist;1101666Who knew people would be this invested in not liking a different set of combat rules? I don't get it.

Too many tabletop gamers are just hypocrites. Having gamed since the early 80s I call it as I see it and I'm not at all impressed with much of the tabletop rpg community. If it's a favored rpg it is above reproach, the company a paragon of virtue and the rules the greatest thing EVER! If it's the opposite the rpg is fundamentally flawed even if most never read it. The company the worst ever and the rule crap. Again it is embarrassing to be tabletop gamer sometimes. I do sometimes crap on other rpg companies as well yet so I'm a hypocrite as well. Yet with all due respect some people either need to stop smoking fourth rate drugs or have their heads checked when they are getting on a poster case being positive about an rpg. I sometimes wonder if this forum us turning into TBP.

I can understand if it was truly shilling such as Fox did for Zweihander as that was truly shilling a product. OP creates a thread about talking and promoting PF 2E and he gets called a shill. Seriously communist game design get a fucking clue and more importantly a life.

I'm not a fan of what I see so far and too much of the new product is going to mostly be rehash of older PF 1E material. Plus life and responsibility is also getting in the way of any further rpg purchases. I just don't see why everyone is going out of their way to be so antagonistic towards Shasarak I gues he must be a someone who likes capitalist game design (god that sounds even worse than communist game design)

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Curse you Shasarak I don't need more temptation lol.

Quote from: Razor 007;1101665The Ravener, perhaps?  The Dracolich, of Pathfinder.

I actually prefer Ravener as opposed to Dracolich in terms of name. Dracolich imo feels redundant.

Quote from: sureshot;1101671Curse you Shasarak I don't need more temptation lol.



I actually prefer Ravener as opposed to Dracolich in terms of name. Dracolich imo feels redundant.

In the Pathfinder 1E Bestiary 2, the Ravener is a CR 22 Red Wyrm variant, that knows three 9th level spells.

Quote from: Conanist;1101666Regarding success or lack of, there is no disaffected D&D playerbase to poach from this time

The people I know who like PF2 liked PF1, but they REALLY liked 4e D&D and have a strong dislike of 5e D&D's simplification of character building & combat.

I definitely think I'm going to take Power Attack for our PF2 game early next year - no I don't think it's as powerful as PF1 (or 3.5) 2hw PA, but then that was extremely powerful, about the only way a melee fighter could start to compare to ranged or caster. At least unlike the other Ftr-1 feats I've looked at it doesn't appear to be conditional/require a penalty.

Quote from: sureshot;1101670Seriously communist game design get a fucking clue and more importantly a life.

I thought something like "communist came design" would be so absurd that no one would take it seriously, so I left out the smileys. Guess I was wrong. My bad!

Sorry you got your feefees hurt by something some fucking retard wrote on the internet. But don't worry, I can take a hint. I won't be darkening the door of this thread until I've got something meaningful to say.

Quote from: Morblot;1101677I thought something like "communist came design" would be so absurd that no one would take it seriously, so I left out the smileys. Guess I was wrong. My bad!

Sorry you got your feefees hurt by something some fucking retard wrote on the internet. But don't worry, I can take a hint. I won't be darkening the door of this thread until I've got something meaningful to say.

Sure whatever keep shifting the goalposts and make bullshit excuses.

You don't get to troll than when called out on it pretend you were joking. No one can stop from trolling so at least have the stones to not play the victim as your anything but a victim.

This has to be the now the third person complaining about buying the playtest version of an rpg. One here two outside of the Internet.

The risk of not liking the rpg is always a factor than why even buy the print version when one could have bought the cheaper PDF version. I don't particularly feel very sympathetic to such buyers as they were never forced to buy the product. While also coming across as not willing to take personal responsibility for the poor purchasing choices. "It's not my fault I stupidly bought the playtest and did not like it. It's Paizo fault for making an rpg I don't like". Yeah..no it is your fault for making a stupid decision. If your a raging diabetic and insist on eating products with a lot of sugar it's not the companies faultthat produce the products for putting them on the market. Your the idiot who can't keep stuffing his mouth with sugar filled products.

Quote from: sureshot;1101690This has to be the now the third person complaining about buying the playtest version of an rpg. One here two outside of the Internet.

The risk of not liking the rpg is always a factor than why even buy the print version when one could have bought the cheaper PDF version. I don't particularly feel very sympathetic to such buyers as they were never forced to buy the product. While also coming across as not willing to take personal responsibility for the poor purchasing choices. "It's not my fault I stupidly bought the playtest and did not like it. It's Paizo fault for making an rpg I don't like". Yeah..no it is your fault for making a stupid decision. If your a raging diabetic and insist on eating products with a lot of sugar it's not the companies faultthat produce the products for putting them on the market. Your the idiot who can't keep stuffing his mouth with sugar filled products.

it should be really easy please someone willing to buy a play test.

It should tell you something when those hard core fans don't like it.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1101700it should be really easy please someone willing to buy a play test.

It should tell you something when those hard core fans don't like it.

Yeah screw that apologist, enablist, personal responsibility evading bullshit.

Unless one had a gun to their head or a loved ones head. Or someone threatened physical violence to the buyer or their family no one was forced to buy the product. No one.

Welcome to 2019 where personal responsibility is now a thing of the past and it seems not limited to social progressives either.

Their were three version for sale. The regular version, hardcover with free PDf release. If one is stupid enough to waste money on the more expensive version of a product with the risk of not liking the product it's somehow the company fault. That makes real sense especially given that no one was forced to buy it I stayed away from the playtest as I was both not interested in buy the print nor downloading the free PDF. I was surprised by a close friend with a softcover version of the playtest for my birthday. Even then if I did buy it I would have assumed responsibility for not liking the final product. While waiting and seeing the final product and possibly reviews of the final product. So if I buy a new shirt because the salesperson knew how to sell and promote the shirt it's not my fault for listening to the salesperson it's the salesperson for doing his job. What an asinine way to live and go through life.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1101700it should be really easy please someone willing to buy a play test.

It should tell you something when those hard core fans don't like it.

The guy did not like the playtest.  Why? Because it's too Communistic.

So tell me how easy it is to please someone like that?

Quote from: Rhedyn;1101700it should be really easy please someone willing to buy a play test.

It should tell you something when those hard core fans don't like it.

I remember FFGs experience with the Dark Heresy 2e playtest.  It went badly and they ended up rewriting almost everything before release because those testers were hard to please.

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