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Anita Sarkeesian Doesn't Like CyberPunk 2077

Started by Shawn Driscoll, June 17, 2019, 04:01:53 PM

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pdboddy

Quote from: HappyDaze;1092550It is if they have no reasonable way of actually causing you any harm. All of this alarmist bullshit means very little to me because there is so much focus on what might happen (in a crazy way) compared to what is happening. Distorted facts and sensationalism don't help.

I admit that the sensationalism is a bit much, but that dude thinks most people are asleep to the things that he wants to shine a light on.

And what he's railing against does do harm.
 

BoxCrayonTales

Quote from: Snowman0147;1092481Mike Pondsmith is busy telling the SJWs to back the fuck off from the game.  The man is a godsend as far as I am concern.

He's busy telling the anti-SJWs the exact same thing.

Quote from: random anti-sjwIt was hilarious when today CDPR posted on twitter man from Haiti who was so happy about Haitians beeing represented in the game. And in the comments there was some clueless SJW still going on about game beeing racist and transphobic. " let me feel offended for you " - type of person

This is almost sad.

Quote from: Mike PondsmithWant to say this just once. I am really tired of well meaning people on internet chat boards paternalistically telling me what I, as a black person, should be offended by. You want to be my ally? Go gird up your loins and at this year's Thanksgiving dinner, have the nerve to tell your racist Uncle Bob to STFU for a change.

Whether they're SJWs or Anti-SJWs, in the end they're still well-off white people who think they get to decide what members of disenfranchised minorities should or shouldn't be offended by. It's arrogant and prejudiced.

Human beings are complicated. What offends one person won't offend another. That's why consultants exist.

Mike is a black creator overseeing the implementation of black and other minority cultures in a big budget video game that viciously criticizes capitalism and rightist politics. The product exemplifies leftist values, so it is the height of hypocrisy for leftists to attack it.

Darrin Kelley

They are pushing the idea that design by committee is the one true way of game design. And yeah. That's not going to end well at all.
 

Spinachcat

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1092485For the sake of my fellow gamers that love D&D I hope to be wrong but I think WotC is already circling the drain and their influence will be seen more and more in the next year or two.

Fuck WotC! We have the OSR. It's got a dozen flavors of D&D for everyone.

Individual Creators > Design by Committee

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Spinachcat;1092652Fuck WotC! We have the OSR. It's got a dozen flavors of D&D for everyone.

Individual Creators > Design by Committee

Couldn't agree more with you my friend.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Snowman0147

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1092562He's busy telling the anti-SJWs the exact same thing.





Whether they're SJWs or Anti-SJWs, in the end they're still well-off white people who think they get to decide what members of disenfranchised minorities should or shouldn't be offended by. It's arrogant and prejudiced.

Human beings are complicated. What offends one person won't offend another. That's why consultants exist.

Mike is a black creator overseeing the implementation of black and other minority cultures in a big budget video game that viciously criticizes capitalism and rightist politics. The product exemplifies leftist values, so it is the height of hypocrisy for leftists to attack it.

Sad you still think anti-sjws are are all racists.  If your right of Lenin your are a anti-sjw.

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Spinachcat;1092652Fuck WotC! We have the OSR. It's got a dozen flavors of D&D for everyone.

   Although I'm still trying to settle on one for my 'Paladins & Princesses/80s Fantasy/8-Bit JRPG' campaigning ... :)

Spinachcat

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1092562He's busy telling the anti-SJWs the exact same thing.

Where?

therealmaxmike R. Talsorian Games228 points · 4 days ago

Want to say this just once. I am really tired of well meaning people on internet chat boards paternalistically telling me what I, as a black person, should be offended by. You want to be my ally? Go gird up your loins and at this year's Thanksgiving dinner, have the nerve to tell your racist Uncle Bob to STFU for a change.



Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1092562Human beings are complicated. What offends one person won't offend another.

That is true.


Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1092562That's why consultants exist.

No. "Consultants" like Skankeesian exist to drain resources, stifle creativity and push victimhood and identity politic agendas. In the words of the immortal philosophers of Steel Panther, "fuck those fucking fuck heads!"


Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1092562Mike is a black creator overseeing the implementation of black and other minority cultures in a big budget video game that viciously criticizes capitalism and rightist politics. The product exemplifies leftist values, so it is the height of hypocrisy for leftists to attack it.

Cyberpunk isn't anti-capitalist. It's anti-megacorporation. There isn't any real capitalism in cyberpunk because the corporations rule everything and governments are subservient to them.  The genre is not "rightist politics vs leftist values" and its heroes are mostly fucked up headcases. It's about a nihilistic dystopia brought about by trading our humanity for shiny trinkets. The poor in cyberpunk are just as vile as the rich in cyberpunk. Street kids will strip down a cyborg for bits given a chance and leave the meat writhing in the gutter. It's dog eat dog multiplied by insanity.

Will CP 2077 just be yet another Leftist screed when done? Maybe. We'll see when it's released. It's been 30 years since Pondsmith wrote CP so who knows what his vision of CP is today. We will know soon enough.

jeff37923

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1092562Mike is a black creator overseeing the implementation of black and other minority cultures in a big budget video game that viciously criticizes capitalism and rightist politics. The product exemplifies leftist values, so it is the height of hypocrisy for leftists to attack it.

You've never checked out anything this guy has created, have you?

Really, you could not be more off the mark about him.
"Meh."

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: jeff37923;1092672You've never checked out anything this guy has created, have you?

Really, you could not be more off the mark about him.

I'm not sure you can easily pigeonhole someone who created both Cyberpunk 2020 and Castle Falkenstein.

ThatChrisGuy

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1092673I'm not sure you can easily pigeonhole someone who created both Cyberpunk 2020 and Castle Falkenstein.

I think "awesome" covers him pretty well, and I don't even like Castle Falkenstein.
I made a blog: Southern Style GURPS

moonsweeper

Quote from: ThatChrisGuy;1092675I think "awesome" covers him pretty well, and I don't even like Castle Falkenstein.

"Awesome" works for me.
"I have a very hard time taking seriously someone who has the time and resources to protest capitalism, while walking around in Nike shoes and drinking Starbucks, while filming it on their iPhone."  --  Alderaan Crumbs

"Just, can you make it The Ramones at least? I only listen to Abba when I want to fuck a stripper." -- Jeff37923

"Government is the only entity that relies on its failures to justify the expansion of its powers." -- David Freiheit (Viva Frei)

RandyB

Quote from: moonsweeper;1092678"Awesome" works for me.

I disagree emphatically.

"Awesome" is an understatement. ;)


Shawn Driscoll

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1092562That's why consultants exist.
Consultants are all about tricking people/companies for their money.