Quote from: JeremyR;1087016I really wonder how this is going to work in the future (or near present). Will everyone be forced to wear a nametag with their chosen pronouns?

   It's getting there. I work in a corporate environment, and I'm seeing people put their pronouns in their company email signatures.

My preferred pronoun is filthy stinking rich, but I can't get my bank to agree.

Quote from: BrokenCounsel;1086912Hey, y'know, I'd really, REALLY like to believe that the reason they included a special pronouns box was for alien diversity reasons, but somehow I just can't beyond the suspicion that it's Virtue Signalling. On a character sheet.

Rather obvious Virtue Signalling... on a character sheet. This is though Paizo so this is actually normal stuff now as they added more and more of this stuff into material. Used to be it was pretty low key. Just there for a lark or it fit somehow. Now? Dont believe for a second its not a marketing ploy.

Why can't we just discard gender pronouns entirely and refer to everyone as a "he"?

Speaking of aliens, can we see conversions for the aliens from the old TSR scifi RPGs like Bughunters, Spelljammer, Star Frontiers, Star*Drive, and Galactos Barrier?

The thing I find interesting about the pronouns is, if I'm talking to you, I'm going to use your name, or I'll call you "you".  I may call you Sir, Mister, Miss, Ms. or Ma'am, but that's not a pronoun.

The only time a personal pronoun would be used by someone is when they are referring to you when speaking to someone else.  Sure, that could be in your presence, but in that case, could just as easily be replaced with the possessive of your name.  I remember when using someone's name was preferred as using a pronoun to refer to them in their presence was considered somewhat rude.

The purpose of the preferred pronoun seems to be to force people to refer to you a certain way outside of your presence as a means of behavior modification to change societal norms, and really have nothing to do with simple respect.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1087637Speaking of aliens, can we see conversions for the aliens from the old TSR scifi RPGs like Bughunters, Spelljammer, Star Frontiers, Star*Drive, and Galactos Barrier?

Dralasites were usually referred to as "it" since at any given point in their life cycle they might be the equivalent of male - sending out spores, female - receptive to spores, neutral - not in the reproductive phase, or the equivalent of pregnant and currently sprouting off a new "it"...

But due to personality quirks you'd see some referred to as he or she. I'd have to dig out my two EQ SF books to see what they did there.

Quote from: CRKrueger;1087640The purpose of the preferred pronoun seems to be to force people to refer to you a certain way outside of your presence as a means of behavior modification to change societal norms, and really have nothing to do with simple respect.

One sociologist put forward that it isnt Social Justice, it is really Social Engineering. And increasingly so.

Quote from: Omega;1087668Dralasites were usually referred to as "it" since at any given point in their life cycle they might be the equivalent of male - sending out spores, female - receptive to spores, neutral - not in the reproductive phase, or the equivalent of pregnant and currently sprouting off a new "it"...

But due to personality quirks you'd see some referred to as he or she. I'd have to dig out my two EQ SF books to see what they did there.

A number of the TSR alien races had alien reproductive cycles.

• The raptikis (Galactos Barrier) were apparently all "male," with the "female" of their species being spawning pools on their home worlds. After reaching sexual maturity, the raptikis fertilized the pool by jumping into it and dissolving.
  
• The slathorp (Galactos Barrier) were basically the same as the dralasites, giant amoebic blobs that inseminated others with airborne pollen. In possibly the craziest world building I've ever seen: the pollen was used in anti-slathorp security systems because pregnancy was really energy intensive for them.
  
• The humma (Star Frontiers) were both male and female at the same time. Nothing special in scifi, but still really alien by human standards.
  

I use pronouns which are grounded in reality.  I'm not calling a man a woman, nor am I calling a woman a man.  I refuse to salute someone else's freak flag.

Troll Lords are giving away STAR SIEGE on PDF this week.

It's the sci-fi toolbox for Castles & Crusades.

Quote from: JeremyR;1087016Will everyone be forced to wear a nametag with their chosen pronouns?

This nonsense is being pushed at conventions.

To me, it all reads "narcissistic totalitarian asshole"

But hey, fuck Paizo...for so many reasons.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1087710But hey, fuck Paizo...for so many reasons.

At least buy them dinner first, geez.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1087709Troll Lords are giving away STAR SIEGE on PDF this week.

It's the sci-fi toolbox for Castles & Crusades.

Hm. I did not know this existed. I'll have to check it out.

Quote from: BrokenCounsel;1086912Hey, y'know, I'd really, REALLY like to believe that the reason they included a special pronouns box was for alien diversity reasons, but somehow I just can't beyond the suspicion that it's Virtue Signalling. On a character sheet.

Nope, a Big NOPE.

The game has the option to play Androids - who can dabble at being either 'gender'. Back in November I played a pre-generated character of one of those. Remember the TNG episode where Data cremated an offspring and he gave it the ability to choose its own gender?

- Ed C.