Quote from: BronzeDragon;1072588That strip is kind of mind-boggling.

They entire run with Ri-ri is cringe-worthy to say the least. As per usual Marvel thought all they had to do what include a black american millennial female with sociopathic tendencies in a comic and it would be a top seller. It was not. As surprise no on wants to read poorly written stories with obvious Mary Sue style character.

Quote from: BronzeDragon;1072588That strip is kind of mind-boggling.

It is either a satire of contemporary tropes that didn't quite work, or an example of contemporary fixation on resentment, rebellion and prideful spite.

Quote from: kythri;1072488There's at least one thread, if not ten, on the Paizo forums where the SJW priesthood wailed and gnashed their teeth about the same thing.

I seem to remember a few posts with a similar attitude ("if we're not oppressed by our physical form, then you're oppressing us by taking away our right to be oppressed").

That sort of attitude is what I like to call "not compatible with the group."

I run things with a lighter tone, and the only time I want to hear "help, help, I'm being repressed" is when it's followed by "Bloody peasant!"

Which you ain't gonna hear from the younger set, because they don't know Monty Python.

Quote from: Thornhammer;1072606That sort of attitude is what I like to call "not compatible with the group."

I run things with a lighter tone, and the only time I want to hear "help, help, I'm being repressed" is when it's followed by "Bloody peasant!"

Which you ain't gonna hear from the younger set, because they don't know Monty Python.

Greetings!

Yeah! They don't. It is very sad how culturally illiterate the Millenials and such are. They aren't really "in tune" with anything beyond the 90's. The 80's is like ancient history for them. Having said that, many of them don't even seem to be much with anything beyond the early 2000's. Their music references, their movie references, show references, are all largely from within the last 10 to 15 year time frame.

Of course, there are exceptions. However, if you are old enough to remember the 80's, and also have some solid familiarity with film, music, and tv culture of the 50's, 60's, and 70's as well--it is quite jarring to meet so many people whose cultural literacy hits a wall at about 1995. Think about cultural contributions from the 1950's until now; compared to from 1995 to 2015, say. ? There's been a few noteworthy things, but I think most will agree that film wise, music, and so on from 1995 to 2015, and currently, is a piss-poor offering compared to what came from before.

You've never seen Braveheart? No. How about Rob Roy? Monty Python? Excalibur? Ivanhoe? Robin Hood? The Outlaw Josey Wales? Anything by John Wayne? The Commancheros? The Fall of the Roman Empire? Spartacus? Ben Hur? Nope. She had seen The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Thank God for that!

She asked me, have you seen Hair? Hair Spray? Yo Mamo Tambien? A bunch of African American and Latino sex and relationship movies?

*sigh* No, I haven't.

Such things are not insurmountable, but they do represent a significant obstacle in any kind of relationship, from what I have observed.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Razor 007;1072414Yeah, my character is actually the king of this realm; but he grew tired of that, and chose to live as a peasant instead.  On rare occasions, he sneaks back into the castle to maintain just enough of a public presence, to prevent being overthrown as a result of his adventures into the underbelly of his realm.  Yada, yada, yada....

So you see, my character is a special snowflake; and therefore he should have advantage on all saving throws, and get 2 attacks per round.

Fflewddur Flam? Is that you?!!!  C'mon, man! We need a fucking tax policy this year... hell, this decade!  Put the fucking harp down and go sit on your throne! Good boy...

Quote from: SHARK;1072619Greetings!

Yeah! They don't. It is very sad how culturally illiterate the Millenials and such are. They aren't really "in tune" with anything beyond the 90's. The 80's is like ancient history for them. Having said that, many of them don't even seem to be much with anything beyond the early 2000's. Their music references, their movie references, show references, are all largely from within the last 10 to 15 year time frame.

Of course, there are exceptions. However, if you are old enough to remember the 80's, and also have some solid familiarity with film, music, and tv culture of the 50's, 60's, and 70's as well--it is quite jarring to meet so many people whose cultural literacy hits a wall at about 1995. Think about cultural contributions from the 1950's until now; compared to from 1995 to 2015, say. ? There's been a few noteworthy things, but I think most will agree that film wise, music, and so on from 1995 to 2015, and currently, is a piss-poor offering compared to what came from before.

You've never seen Braveheart? No. How about Rob Roy? Monty Python? Excalibur? Ivanhoe? Robin Hood? The Outlaw Josey Wales? Anything by John Wayne? The Commancheros? The Fall of the Roman Empire? Spartacus? Ben Hur? Nope. She had seen The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Thank God for that!

She asked me, have you seen Hair? Hair Spray? Yo Mamo Tambien? A bunch of African American and Latino sex and relationship movies?

*sigh* No, I haven't.

Such things are not insurmountable, but they do represent a significant obstacle in any kind of relationship, from what I have observed.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I think it's "Y Tu Mama Tambien." Never seen it.

Hair and Hair Spray are fairly old works (film and musical). Hair is as much a part of cultural literacy as John Wayne.

If there is an issue with cultural literacy, it is illustrated by SHARK's post. Older generations and younger generations do not share the same frame of reference, as the general curriculum has changed over time, becoming more diverse (the other part is that you're male, she's female, you're a marine, she's not [I assume], and so on). It's the premise behind ED Hirsch's book on the subject (interesting read). It's not going to change much, as, beyond a few pieces of literature, schools seem to be going to a skills-based curriculum. This is leading to students who can read and write, but have no means to put anything into context.

Beyond that, I don't find it surprising that different generations see the world differently. This is the way of the world, man.

I usually break the ice with an inquiry about silver screen opinions on Mary Pickford & Douglas Fairbanks.

This is a lot about playing out what you know, and youth being youth, will play out what they immediately experienced. It's one of those noticeable things when you return to old White Wolf games and realize, now with the hindsight of age, how much it must suck to be in The Masquerade. You gotta "act your age" eternally. Of course you'll be desperate for Elysium. A chance to drop the charade, not worry about an accidental revealing detail, and not having to care about minutiae you could not care less about.

Quote from: SHARKThere's been a few noteworthy things, but I think most will agree that film wise, music, and so on from 1995 to 2015, and currently, is a piss-poor offering compared to what came from before.

You've never seen Braveheart? No. How about Rob Roy? Monty Python? Excalibur? Ivanhoe? Robin Hood? The Outlaw Josey Wales? Anything by John Wayne? The Commancheros? The Fall of the Roman Empire? Spartacus? Ben Hur? Nope. She had seen The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Thank God for that!

She asked me, have you seen Hair? Hair Spray? Yo Mamo Tambien? A bunch of African American and Latino sex and relationship movies?

Quote from: cranebump;1072773I think it's "Y Tu Mama Tambien." Never seen it.

Hair and Hair Spray are fairly old works (film and musical). Hair is as much a part of cultural literacy as John Wayne.

Yeah, this doesn't seem like a generational thing so much as different cultures. Hair came out on Broadway in 1968 and the film in 1978, and Hairspray came out 1988. Not everyone needs to know about African American and Latino relationship movies, but then, not everyone needs to know about John Wayne, either.

More broadly, I think it's impossible to linearly compare decades. There are trends, but there are also always countering trends as well. The decade I matured in was the 1980s, which was plagued by a lot of terrible formulaic comedy, horror, and drama (Police Academy, Friday the 13th, etc.). But there were films that bucked the trend, plus some that embrace the cheesiness and make it great (Airplane). I also feel post-1995 is also a mix. The formulaic blockbuster has gotten better produced and reached some heights like Lord of the Rings, but they do tend to be more bland - and plagued by over-reliance on CGI. On the other hand, there are plenty of non-blockbuster movies, including a thriving indie scene that has grown.

Going back to the original point - I don't think broken or crazy heroes are all that endemic in recent culture. It's seems to me that we're getting out of the 1990s grim-and-gritty trend of dark anti-heroes. Straight-shooting heroes like Captain America, Black Panther, and Wonder Woman seem to be doing well.

The movie Hair is one of my absolutely favorite musical films. In part, because I am a counter-cultural non-conformist who likes drugs, sex, offensive music, and sticking it to the establishment; and dislikes the military industrial-complex and doesn't want to listen to what a self-styled ruling class thinks we have to do.

For the first several decades of my life, that made me a leftist.
Today, it absolutely does not. It makes me a direct enemy of the Left.