This looks like they set Boogie up and then dropped him for new points.

Hopefully people will wise up and see how their sjwness is being exploited.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1062085Boogie2988 wants everyone to like him and get along, and every problem he's had online is a direct result of that.



Bullshit, bullshit, and bullshit.

Do you have any evidence to support this statement? Did you actually watch the video I posted?



But he's a straight white male, so it literally doesn't matter what he does.



RPGSports used his name without his consent, and then benefited both from having him associated their event and dropping him from their project which he was never a part of in the first place. So it doesn't matter if it was a hit job, they exploited him nonetheless, and committed fraud in the process.

Why the fuck are you trying to excuse or defend this?

Back the fuck up. I didn't announce Boogie, I didn't unannounce him either. Those that did have to answer for it.

As for the quote I posted, it came directly from the archive log that Jeremy posted, I didn't go trawling the web for it. And I (re)posted it before you posted the video interview with Boogie.

In the video Boogie admits he said some stupid and (his words) problematic stuff in the past, even if his treatment appears to have been harsh. But he's an excellent speaker,
and I was genuinely taken with Boogie's pitch(?) to WOTC in the video.

But I still don't see how that changes my point, if the guy you have selected to promote your product has been banned by WOTC, it's risky associating him with your product launch. That's not a controversial statement.

Of course it's terrible to do it without his consent, and especially when he has warned you that there may be an issue.

If the creators are dumb enough, or disorganized enough, or simply too narcissistic to do that anyway, I certainly don't have any desire to check out their product.

I like RPGsports better because tournaments for different RPGs could help promote other RPGs.

But it sounds like the organizers are laughable fucknuts.

Of course, if they have the slightest success, then their format can be copied by hopefully less fucknutty people who will run with it.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1061729This and the latest ConTessa bullshit have finally pushed me over an edge I should have fallen off long before.

Here's what I could figure out from that link before the D4 SAN loss took effect: a SJW who hates itself for being white is angry at the Diana Jones Awards for awarding a podcast instead of a RPG the SJW liked and thus, if Diana Jones Award goes to anyone not SJW approved, the ONLY reason must be racism and Diana Jones is retroactively literally Hitler.

Did I get that right? Because that sounds IN-FUCKING-SANE. Anyone else want a shot at translating babble to English?

Quote from: Spinachcat;1062133I like RPGsports better because tournaments for different RPGs could help promote other RPGs.

But it sounds like the organizers are laughable fucknuts.

Of course, if they have the slightest success, then their format can be copied by hopefully less fucknutty people who will run with it.




Here's what I could figure out from that link before the D4 SAN loss took effect: a SJW who hates itself for being white is angry at the Diana Jones Awards for awarding a podcast instead of a RPG the SJW liked and thus, if Diana Jones Award goes to anyone not SJW approved, the ONLY reason must be racism and Diana Jones is retroactively literally Hitler.

Did I get that right? Because that sounds IN-FUCKING-SANE. Anyone else want a shot at translating babble to English?

Since I haven't read Harlem Unbound (everyone that has says it rocks), and since I have only a peripheral interest in Actual Play, I can't speak as to which is more deserving. I do think Actual Play has had a massive impact on the hobby, and it is presumably eligible for something somewhen. Whether that should have been last year, next year, or never, I can't say either. Personally I am pleased that both received nominations.

I will say that the treatment Chris Spivey received (Twitter shot in the ConTessa blogpost) is horrendous, and might have been the impetus for the blogpost. In turn, I think Spivey is to be commended for the way he handled it. The rest of us don't necessarily need to hold back so much.

What treatment did the dude receive? In the blog post there is no picture of him being poorly treated at all. Just a post where he said he was asked why he deserves a seat at the table. Sorry for not trusting the narrator but in today's climate that can mean anything. I want to see the receipts  before I say anybody was mistreated.

I don't know.what Actual Play is. I know there are actual play shows and podcasts but I dont know if Actual Play is a brand or something.

The Diane Jones award should be used as a lifetime achievement or something culturally significant. Is Harlem Unbound culturally significant outside of the social media gaming intelligentsia? I haven't seen it really played at conventions.

Quote from: fearsomepirate;1061853Wait.

They banned...boogie?

Guy is legit one of the nicest people in nerdspace, is always trying to get people to get along and put aside their political differences.

Oh wait, yeah, I see why they need to unperson him.


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I see what you did there!

Quote from: Motorskills;1062107Back the fuck up. I didn't announce Boogie, I didn't unannounce him either.

No, you didn't.

But you didn't condemn the action either.

Quote from: Motorskills;1062107Those that did have to answer for it.

Good thing I'm only holding you accountable for the words you used here then.

Quote from: Motorskills;1062107As for the quote I posted, it came directly from the archive log that Jeremy posted,

So is that why you didn't post a link to it.

Quote from: Motorskills;1062107I didn't go trawling the web for it.

Translation: I didn't attempt to verify anything.

Quote from: Motorskills;1062107But I still don't see how that changes my point, if the guy you have selected to promote your product has been banned by WOTC, it's risky associating him with your product launch. That's not a controversial statement.

What's controversial is why he was banned, which was saying something he apologized and corrected for, and being friends with the wrong people. These fuckers don't want him to grow as a person, they want to make an example of him.

It also clearly demonstrates that being banned by WotC will put you on a blacklist which affects you far beyond just attending DCI events.

Quote from: Motorskills;1062107Of course it's terrible to do it without his consent, and especially when he has warned you that there may be an issue.

It's also illegal.

Quote from: Motorskills;1062135Since I haven't read Harlem Unbound (everyone that has says it rocks),

Aaand there you go again, making evaluations based on politics and popularity rather than worth.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1062133Here's what I could figure out from that link before the D4 SAN loss took effect: a SJW who hates itself for being white is angry at the Diana Jones Awards for awarding a podcast instead of a RPG the SJW liked and thus, if Diana Jones Award goes to anyone not SJW approved, the ONLY reason must be racism and Diana Jones is retroactively literally Hitler.

You forgot the part where they exotify black people and culture and preemptively shut down criticisms of speaking for others whose experience they don't share in an article which is essentially one enormous 'I have black friend'.

#CthulhuFhtagn

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1062766frothing mess

You need to take a breath mate, this place is getting too much for you (understandable).

I think this Boogie guy - in his video interview that was linked - comes across very credibly. Pirate upthread said he was one of the nicest guys in nerdspace, and I have no reason to question that.

Whether Boogie was linked to this project incompetently or recklessly (maliciously), I don't know. I do know that Boogie has some baggage.....because he himself says so in the same damn video. I do know that people are accusing him of stuff, because it was contained within the fucking link upthread. It turns out I read what people post, shocking, huh?

Whether that was why Boogie was dropped, or if it was because it immediately became apparent that Boogie hadn't ever actually signed on, I also don't know. Since you are all about verification, please post your video interviewer with the project manager.


And you're hating on Harlem Unbound....or rather on me, for suggesting that I had read that other people like it? What the fuck are you smoking? People write reviews, I read reviews*. That's how it works.


*at least four** for Harlem Unbound, at the last count, btw. All of those were read before the latest kerfuffle, not that you bothered to verify by, you know, actually asking me.

**Likewise Cthulhu City, which also sounds amazing, and which I also haven't been fortunate enough to read yet.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1060931This is fucking ridiculous. A bunch of Millennials will probably love this.  SJWs too, not for themselves but because it allows more strict control over the RPG experience.

Clearly you are not Old School b/c competitive D&D was a fixture of TSR and GenCon for a long time.

PvP in computer games appeared because computers are stupid. So to make play challenging they had to bring in other players to do the work computers were too stupid to do. This is not necessary for tabletop roleplaying games, since the GM is there to provide a challenge to the players.

I've had PvP happen in games. I find it's an excellent time to roll for wandering monsters. This takes something boring and stupid and makes it fun and interesting. Either they start co-operating or I get to score a TPK, either is good.

This is lame and stupid with or without the virtue signalling nonsense.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1063077PvP in computer games appeared because computers are stupid. So to make play challenging they had to bring in other players to do the work computers were too stupid to do. This is not necessary for tabletop roleplaying games, since the GM is there to provide a challenge to the players.

I've had PvP happen in games. I find it's an excellent time to roll for wandering monsters. This takes something boring and stupid and makes it fun and interesting. Either they start co-operating or I get to score a TPK, either is good.

This is lame and stupid with or without the virtue signalling nonsense.

Pretty much this.

To me RPGSports makes me think of the big character optimization games like 3.x and 4E.

This RPGSport thing is never going to happen.

Quote from: Lurtch;1063093Pretty much this.

To me RPGSports makes me think of the big character optimization games like 3.x and 4E.

This RPGSport thing is never going to happen.

Whereas I think it is just around the corner (within ten years), some combo of World of Warcraft, Fantasy Grounds, Dream Park, Critical Role, and seven secret spices.

Quote from: FeloniousMonk;1063076Clearly you are not Old School b/c competitive D&D was a fixture of TSR and GenCon for a long time.

Not anything like this.