Quote from: JeremyR;1061205Apparently the first announced player has been unannounced because he wasn't woke enough

http://archive.is/VHS81

Everything they represent is everything I hate about the hobby.

I cannot wait for this thing to fail. Fuck twenty something gamers.

Quote from: JeremyR;1061205Apparently the first announced player has been unannounced because he wasn't woke enough

http://archive.is/VHS81

LOL.  Here was the original announcement, with the handle of the guy who has since been banned for being anti-LGBTWTFBBQ.

Well, I read one of the links. And it said:

QuoteWe're also implementing MOBA-esque mechanics such as a Pick/Ban phase to help expand the strategy.

No. Nope. Newp. No thanks. If I want to be reminded of videogames, I'll go play videogames. I'd really just like to keep my D&D feeling like D&D.

If there's people out there that want...whatever this is meant to be...more power to 'em I guess (I won't tell people what to like and not like about gaming), but I find this deeply unappealing on a personal level.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1060931This is fucking ridiculous.

You bothered people might enjoy the game in ways which are different from how you enjoy the game?

QuoteA bunch of Millennials will probably love this.  SJWs too, not for themselves but because it allows more strict control over the RPG experience.

And the answer to my question is yes. They might have badwrongfun apparently.

It looks like for SJWs, the fun of the game is going to be in gatekeeping who they allow to play the game.

And it isn't DnDSports anymore...apparently they had so much "awesome feedback from the community" that is is now RPGSports :rolleyes:
So they will bring it to more than just to DnD.

Also, the shitstorm mentioned above ...wow, just wow. So the dude apparently hates on LGBTQ+. And he's a Gamer-Gate-er. Do they provide stuff to back that up? Of course not. They probably could not. Unbelievable. People just claiming stuff and misrepresenting stuff...just crazy. And they call us toxic. HA!
I dare you to find a group of more double-standard-y and hypocrite people than those groups.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1060931This is fucking ridiculous. A bunch of Millennials will probably love this.  SJWs too, not for themselves but because it allows more strict control over the RPG experience.

It sounds like something that nobody is actually going to care about.

Whatever this is, it's obviously not really RPG play. It's a kind of parody of it. It's far, far less RPG play than the Improv Theater that is "DnD Livestreaming".

Can't wait for those new tournament modules.

Quote from: fearsomepirate;1060462I'm just glad they've officially declared it's going to be a safe place.

I'll believe that when they ban d4s.

Quote from: JeremyR;1061205Apparently the first announced player has been unannounced because he wasn't woke enough

http://archive.is/VHS81

Quote from: Apparition;1061213LOL.  Here was the original announcement, with the handle of the guy who has since been banned for being anti-LGBTWTFBBQ.

For your consideration:


So they literally attached Boggie2988 to the project before he even committed to it, and after he warned them WotC would have a problem with it, in order to promote their event. And given how the current industry behaves, it's not even unreasonable to assume they deliberately dragged him through the muck in order to score virtue points.

This and the latest ConTessa bullshit have finally pushed me over an edge I should have fallen off long before.

This is awesome and it's awesome because it's going to fail; the backlash against SJW invading hobby spaces where they aren't wanted is great fun to watch.  Firstly, there's been "tournament D&D" for almost as long as there has been D&D.  The Lost Caverns of Tsojconth, Lost Tamoachan, Ghost Tower of Inverness, White Plume Mountain, Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, even the Giants modules were tournament modules.  The A series started with A4 as a challenge to players with high level characters to do more than just grab a handy scroll, wand, ring, or sword of pretty much kill everything in the room, and it worked backwards (How did the party get in the dungeon?  They were captured by the slave lords.  Why were they captured by the slave lords?  They found their hidden stockade, etc.)

However, at none of the events these were run at (including me running the tournament version of A1 a couple of years ago) was there a sign saying "You must be THIS WOKE to participate".

It's also awesome because the plebeians who don't understand D&D other than "it's a cool thing seen in the geek hobby stores we're invading, and there's a #WOKE D&D youtube series" who want D&D to stop being an RPG that they can't understand, despite viewing hundreds of episodes of "Big Bang Theory" and become something more like Fortnite are getting their way.  I'm sure this is wonderful from WOkeTC's perspective, who want D&D to be a "lifestyle brand" rather than an RPG, too.  If D&D is whittled down to the point where these fuckheads can gatekeep, then WOkeTC can simply shrug and say, well, it's this company driving the most popular aspect of D&D and if you don't meet their criteria, not much we can do!  They (WOkeTC) can gatekeep by proxy and smug-smirk their way to the bank.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1060413D&D as PvP isn't new. It was popular at conventions in the 1e days. Lots of fun and I've run several Team vs. Team events.

During 4e, RPGA had their dungeon delve competitions at cons. Your team fought several encounters and those who made it farthest in the dungeon won.

Also, RPGA during 0e and 1e hosted terrific D&D tournaments, its how several notable modules were originally run (Tomb of Horrors, Slave Lords, etc). I could see that format working well for an eSports thingie.

Some of the tournament events I did back in the day were just amazing, the creativity of the authors, and later the teams playing the events was superlative. I actually wrote a semi-tournament event for BECMI at European GenCon (aka CryoGenCon because the accommodations were so cold at night...).

It was mini-campaign, over three four hour rounds, we had something like nine tables. IIRC all the players would play all three rounds if they wanted, but the best two players from each table at each round went through to elite tables, so we ended up with the best six players at the Grand Finale Table or whatever we called it, I reffed that table.

But the most fun I had as a player was a tournament where we were all playing woodland animals. Completely different from what we were used to. Really light-hearted and sweet, but the tournament format simultaneously made it full-on, since you got points for roleplaying, creativity and whatnot. Fantastic.

DDAL has Opens now, but they are mostly tactical. The Epics are closer in terms of sheer fun, but they are often still slugfests.

Quote from: Anglachel;1061259And it isn't DnDSports anymore...apparently they had so much "awesome feedback from the community" that is is now RPGSports :rolleyes:
So they will bring it to more than just to DnD.

Also, the shitstorm mentioned above ...wow, just wow. So the dude apparently hates on LGBTQ+. And he's a Gamer-Gate-er. Do they provide stuff to back that up? Of course not. They probably could not. Unbelievable. People just claiming stuff and misrepresenting stuff...just crazy. And they call us toxic. HA!
I dare you to find a group of more double-standard-y and hypocrite people than those groups.

Actually I Googled "Boogie + GamerGate" and got plenty of ugly hits.

From one of the Twitter feeds:

QuoteAnd yet that doesn't stop him [Boogie] from years of targeting queer folk. Of retweeting Nazis. Of being friends and working with Gaters. The first thing in the announcement was about his rants. His profile talks about not caring about stuff like that.

Certainly doesn't sound like the best fit for a product launch.

Wait.

They banned...boogie?

Guy is legit one of the nicest people in nerdspace, is always trying to get people to get along and put aside their political differences.

Oh wait, yeah, I see why they need to unperson him.

Quote from: Motorskills;1061737Certainly doesn't sound like the best fit for a product launch.

I guess if the purpose of the product launch is to fire another salvo in the SJW wars, sure.

Quote from: fearsomepirate;1061853Wait.

They banned...boogie?

Guy is legit one of the nicest people in nerdspace, is always trying to get people to get along and put aside their political differences.

Oh wait, yeah, I see why they need to unperson him.



I guess if the purpose of the product launch is to fire another salvo in the SJW wars, sure.

I did read positive things about Boogie as well, but I genuinely don't know enough beyond there's some baggage (i.e. following a basic Google Search). It might be a hit job, I hope not, but depending on how much murk there is (I've read a couple of his mea culpa's, so there's some double-edge there). Ultimately, a launch with someone potentially controversial is always going to carry some risk.

Boogie2988 wants everyone to like him and get along, and every problem he's had online is a direct result of that.

Quote from: Motorskills;1061737From one of the Twitter feeds:

QuoteAnd yet that doesn't stop him [Boogie] from years of targeting queer folk. Of retweeting Nazis. Of being friends and working with Gaters.

Bullshit, bullshit, and bullshit.

Do you have any evidence to support this statement? Did you actually watch the video I posted?

Quote from: fearsomepirate;1061853Wait.

They banned...boogie?

Guy is legit one of the nicest people in nerdspace, is always trying to get people to get along and put aside their political differences.

But he's a straight white male, so it literally doesn't matter what he does.

Quote from: Motorskills;1061854I did read positive things about Boogie as well, but I genuinely don't know enough beyond there's some baggage (i.e. following a basic Google Search). It might be a hit job, I hope not, but depending on how much murk there is (I've read a couple of his mea culpa's, so there's some double-edge there). Ultimately, a launch with someone potentially controversial is always going to carry some risk.

RPGSports used his name without his consent, and then benefited both from having him associated their event and dropping him from their project which he was never a part of in the first place. So it doesn't matter if it was a hit job, they exploited him nonetheless, and committed fraud in the process.

Why the fuck are you trying to excuse or defend this?