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Pathfinder is Going Full Woke, But They Were Doomed to Brokeness

Started by RPGPundit, September 06, 2018, 11:35:29 PM

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crkrueger

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1055577Yeah, specifics are welcome.

With the Realms, it's arguably in keeping with what I've heard about Greenwood's original vision. :)

Yeah, pretty much.  Lady Alustriel of Silverymoon's hottub orgies, Elminster in bed with the Seven Sisters simultaneously, polymorph shenanigans of all kinds, etc.  Greenwood's home campaign is pretty much late 60's/early 70's excess.  Think Studio 54/Hollywood parties/hippy free love powered by magic.  Once Winter hits in the North and you can't adventure anywhere, the rich and beautiful people get down big time.
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san dee jota

Quote from: S'mon;1056449I remember playing in a homebrew pbem game "Majestic 12" where the PCs were government agents in 1950s America, investigating the paranormal with the aid of super-science. My PC got a bunch of extra build points for taking the disadvantages of being black and female.

So I was a bit surprised when we drove into a white Southern town on our first case, and the locals treated me just like everyone else. :D

It's a mess for a GM.

On the one hand, when playing a historical setting, you want that immersion.  On the other hand, it's not really fun to sit there and call the players a bunch of slurs, even if it's "in character".  Fortunately, despite popular imaging, a black woman -could- actually walk around in the South without having members of the pro-am KKK follow her everywhere.  So being treated like everyone else isn't entirely out of the realm of plausibility.

So yeah, as much as some people complain that PEG handwaved away all ugliness of the South in Deadlands and say they want the Confederates to be all racist and sexist and such... I don't think they really do.

S'mon

Quote from: san dee jota;1056504Fortunately, despite popular imaging, a black woman -could- actually walk around in the South without having members of the pro-am KKK follow her everywhere.  So being treated like everyone else isn't entirely out of the realm of plausibility.

I didn't expect to be lynched (& I know the Southern US well enough to know people are *very* polite, especially to women), but I thought I might face some difficulty being treated seriously as a government official by the local sheriff, rather than him treating me exactly like the white male agents. Of course we were a bunch of Yankees, or at least DC Feds - he probably hated us all equally. :D

The GM was an east-Asian female BTW. I didn't really mind being treated the same as the guys, I just thought it odd she'd give me these extra points and they turn out to be freebies. I might have played a black female agent anyway - my character Elizabeth Washington was pretty cool, and I played a black female Fighter in a Midnight d20 game a few years later, which slightly annoyed the rather racist German GM (also female) when she found out. :)

Ratman_tf

Quote from: san dee jota;1056504So yeah, as much as some people complain that PEG handwaved away all ugliness of the South in Deadlands and say they want the Confederates to be all racist and sexist and such... I don't think they really do.

I don't either. I think they want to take such an opportunity to shout their wokeness at other people.
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