Quote from: Brad;1051958This has to be the dumbest fucking thing I've read on this site in a while.

I've been biting my tongue save a couple quips, but damn if you aren’t correct! That was so ignorant it almost hurt my head.

Quote from: Steven Mitchell;1051988Well, I learned something today.  Previously, I did not think it possible for someone to make a statement that would come anywhere near that close to unifying the responses here.  Though Ratman's gif was my favorite.

I agree. I wish I could just hover that gif over my head when people say stupid shit.

Why watch television for entertainment when you can just read threads like this one instead?

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1051992I agree. I wish I could just hover that gif over my head when people say stupid shit.

Get one of those hats with the bobble post and affix the photo to it?

Quote from: Cave Bear;1051932What do we make of the fact that heterosexual, non-sjw men also cosplay?

Couple of years ago, at my local Comiccon, there was a guy who had built a Diablo costume, as in the video game series Diablo.  Another managed to make VERY CLOSE TO SCALE Warhammer Ultramarine, right down to being over seven feet tall.  And when I asked why?  They liked making costumes, it was a puzzle for them to solve, they didn't want to be in the media industry, this was a passion, just a hobby.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1051938Yep. We're talking about female cosplayers because of the sex-based social dynamics in the geek community.

They are also the biggest group of gropers I've ever seen.  Female cosplayers and women in general will grope, fondle and squeeze boldly both male and female cosplayers.  And that's OK.  But if a man were to touch on the shoulder a female cosplayer?  Out of the con he goes.

It's also why I refuse to take pictures with cosplayers of either genders of late.

Quote from: tenbones;1051983I'm merely pointing out his attacker, if he keeps that shit up, he'll try it with the wrong person and hard lessons will be learned.

Nice comeuppance fantasy, but I'm pretty sure that even in the damaged brainstem of this thug there are enough neurons devoted to "select only milquetoast geeks to sucker punch".

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1051997Couple of years ago, at my local Comiccon, there was a guy who had built a Diablo costume, as in the video game series Diablo.  Another managed to make VERY CLOSE TO SCALE Warhammer Ultramarine, right down to being over seven feet tall.  And when I asked why?  They liked making costumes, it was a puzzle for them to solve, they didn't want to be in the media industry, this was a passion, just a hobby.



They are also the biggest group of gropers I've ever seen.  Female cosplayers and women in general will grope, fondle and squeeze boldly both male and female cosplayers.  And that's OK.  But if a man were to touch on the shoulder a female cosplayer?  Out of the con he goes.

It's also why I refuse to take pictures with cosplayers of either genders of late.

Something something institutional, something something sexism.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1052009Something something institutional, something something sexism.

Let us know when you have something meaningful to contribute.

Quote from: Omega;1052010Let us know when you have something meaningful to contribute.

Well we can solve the dispute easily enough. Just have all the many female RPGers / cosplayers that feel comfortable frequenting the RPGsite to speak up in support of Brady's posts.

Quote from: Motorskills;1052014Well we can solve the dispute easily enough. Just have all the many female RPGers / cosplayers that feel comfortable frequenting the RPGsite to speak up in support of Brady's posts.

As opposed to the many that frequent all the other RPG forums out there?

Quote from: Orphan81;1052015As opposed to the many that frequent all the other RPG forums out there?

Pundit should moderate away our toxic masculinity so women will feel safe enough to post here. Worked for other sites.

Quote from: jeff37923;1051941Nice sweeping generalization.

There is a world of difference between cosplayers like the 501st Legion (a noble group if there ever was one), Koltar (whose part-time Klingon appearances are done for charity) and Olga Levitskaya (who is trying to pass off some cyberpunk cosplay as breakthrough cybernetics research you can invest in).

Feels weird Jeff defending or sticking up for me - but its very cool.
I am just old enough that when I started wearing costumes no one was using the word 'cosplay'  - heck the group I belonged referred to our outfits as uniforms. With that group it was sort of expected that more than 60% of the year we would be trying our best to help out charities at events.
Later on, after I had more than one Klingon outfit others in the group I was hanging out with made it clear that in their minds two of my outfits were 'costumes' and one was my regular uniform. The two costumes were my "Klingon Santa" outfit (Vav QISmaS) and my Klingon clergy or magistrate garb for when I officiated at Klingon weddings. (Yes, that happened at least three times)

In the early 2000s there were plenty of young women in costume at Gen Con - no one was using the word 'cosplay' (not yet at least). Maybe a third of them were known as 'Booth Babes' and some were proud of that nickname. Most of them actually knew the games very well and could demo the hell out of them. The most well-known for a while was 'Chainmail Bikini Girl' - I was at her wedding as the token Klingon. She still goes to Gen Con and runs a T-shirt booth there every year.  The other 'booth babe' I became friends with was known as 'Con Kitty' because she would user bodypaint to make herself look like a walking tiger woman whilst wearing leather pants and a chainmail bikini top. These days she shows uip at Gen Con and portrays Carmen Sandiego as her preferred costume or bit of fun.

WTF = How in the heck did the 'cosplay' tangent get started in the first place in a thread about an assault or bar fight at Gen Con?
Just wondering....

- Ed C.

Quote from: Koltar;1052020WTF = How in the heck did the 'cosplay' tangent get started in the first place in a thread about an assault or bar fight at Gen Con?
Just wondering....

- Ed C.

Hormones

Quote from: Orphan81;1052015As opposed to the many that frequent all the other RPG forums out there?

Probably, yeah?

Certainly TBP has a decent number.


But let's use real numbers. @Koltar can back me up here, I would think. I estimate approximately somewhere between 10 and 30% of attendees at Gen Con were women. I saw quite a few female GMs but only had one myself.

My RPGs were:
1 x Delta Green 2017 hybrid (3/7 women)
1 x Delta Green 2017 straight (0/7 women)
1 x SandalPunk (2/7 women)
1 x Fall of Delta Green (1/7 women)
1 x Cypher system (3/5 women, plus female GM)
1 CoC 7e (4/6 women)
1 x Gumshoe Hybrid (2/7 women)
1 x Dark Eye (1/5 Woman)

I think those are pretty typical numbers, based on what I saw, running from event to event.

I saw a lot of cosplayers, but that was more a factor of headcount than percentage, maybe 1/50?
I don't recall seeing any that were provocatively dressed, they all seemed to be dressing for themselves to have fun. More power to them.

Well I am biased or slanted in how many women I saw there - because the Pathfinder society regional coordinator seems to run things out of our store - and seems to groom or train many other young women to be GMs of Pathfinder and Starfinder. ("Young" as in 23 to 38 years old age range).

I saw many familiar faces from my hometown store there. Heck at one of the booths I met a new publisher who said she created a game setting because she was sick of people saying that 'girls don't play D&D'.

By-the-way, the characters of Rey and Jyn Erso in the recent Star Wars movies seems to have encouraged more women and girls to dress up as action oriented characters at Gen Con.  The number of 'sexy elvish princesses'  and 'sexy evil queens' has significantly decreased compared to 10 or 12 years ago.

- Ed C.