Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1029513Hmm.  But everybody who watches those guys may not cook, but they do eat.  Maybe they don't eat like that, but maybe they'd like to.

This probably proves something, but damned if I know what.

Perhaps that people can be interested in things they don't currently do? That's as much as I can glean from it.

Quote from: Baulderstone;1029514I'm still failing to appreciate the threat here.

That's my reaction to 90% of what happens on this board. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with anything someone says, I just don't believe we're really under any threat.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1029479Agreed.  Whey Pundy-poo crossed the line from "not a gamer" to "not part of the RPG community," he screwed the pooch.

The Gygax sisters don't game, but son of a bitch do they put in a lot of work at GaryCon.

They both played D&D in the past too, no?  Was it Elise who was one of the original playtesters?  Something about a cleric and a giant centipede?  

Not arguing your point.  Running a RPG convention is very much 'part of the community'.

I'm missing something. I was ready to pick up my pitch fork and follow Pundit but I read the twitter feed...

It seems the original Twitter post was created by a guy that whole heartily agrees with Pundit.

There seems to be one idiot: "Gr*nt Ell*s" Fill in the vowels. One idiot does not a "Shit Storm" make. Or did I miss something and this spilled over to other forums?

Quote from: Ulairi;1029507Once I got off social media I never hear any of that noise.

Social media certainly seems to bring out the worst in people! This can sometimes spill into the real world - but usually it doesn't.

Quote from: MonsterSlayer;1029521I'm missing something. I was ready to pick up my pitch fork and follow Pundit but I read the twitter feed...

It seems the original Twitter post was created by a guy that whole heartily agrees with Pundit.

There seems to be one idiot: "Gr*nt Ell*s" Fill in the vowels. One idiot does not a "Shit Storm" make. Or did I miss something and this spilled over to other forums?

That's my impression. The other guys all seemed surprisingly reasonable to me. But I can't login to twitter so maybe I missed the True Horror.

Quote from: MonsterSlayer;1029521I'm missing something. I was ready to pick up my pitch fork and follow Pundit but I read the twitter feed...

It seems the original Twitter post was created by a guy that whole heartily agrees with Pundit.

There seems to be one idiot: "Gr*nt Ell*s" Fill in the vowels. One idiot does not a "Shit Storm" make. Or did I miss something and this spilled over to other forums?

Something about molehills and mountains I am guessing.

A tempest in a pee pot.

Threat? Horror?  Might be more than one person overreacting.

What I saw was complaining about people who think watching videos of people gaming makes one a gamer.
These are the same narcissistic idiots who think hashtags equal legislation and will film someone in trouble before thinking about stopping to help.

Also, you know the gatekeeping part was tongue in cheek, right?

Can't speak for anybody else, but yes, I knew.  And watching videos of games doesn't make you a gamer because words mean things.

Other than that this has mostly been an amusing piss take.

I don't have the sense that there are large numbers of people asking to be called gamers who only watch streams, but if we are going to quibble over terms, Gaming or RPG Enthusiasts is probably the way to go for someone who watches games or reads them but isn't playing them. Still, I am not particularly concerns about who gets called a gamer and who doesn't. A lot of them are probably potential players though. I'd imagine a solid chunk of people who came to the hobby by watching streams, would at least have a curiosity about jumping in and giving it a try. I think we should approach streaming like any other cultural moment where the potential to grow the hobby or have a boom is there. Eventually things will probably settle down again like they always do, but this is a good opportunity to share the hobby with people who are suddenly taking notice of it.

You can be a gaming fan without playing games, just like you can be a football fan without playing football.  Nothing wrong with that.

Quote from: CRKrueger;1029531Threat? Horror?  Might be more than one person overreacting.

What I saw was complaining about people who think watching videos of people gaming makes one a gamer.
These are the same narcissistic idiots who think hashtags equal legislation and will film someone in trouble before thinking about stopping to help.

Also, you know the gatekeeping part was tongue in cheek, right?

Well I didn't figure people that "identify as gamers" was going to be the new front in the SJW wars featured on Tucker Carlson tonight but I do feel like I was teased by Pundit.

Even my wife knows not to do that on my testorone injection days.

I had been listening to Steven Crowder's "There are only 2 genders; change my mind" and was primed for a fight.

Can I get a "I got Blue Balled by The RPG Pundit" T-shirt?

Hypothetical:

I was always interested in fantasy and got into painting fantasy miniatures because I did not have room for model trains.

I had many of the D&D books for painting reference and even rolled/statted out characters and monsters I painted. But did not have an opportunity to play.

Was I a gamer?

Fair honest question. Give your opinion.

Quote from: MonsterSlayer;1029540Hypothetical:

I was always interested in fantasy and got into painting fantasy miniatures because I did not have room for model trains.

I had many of the D&D books for painting reference and even rolled/statted out characters and monsters I painted. But did not have an opportunity to play.

Was I a gamer?

Fair honest question. Give your opinion.

If you read a bunch of fishing magazines, bought a bunch of equipment, made your own lures and never went fishing, are you a fisherman?

Quote from: MonsterSlayer;1029540Hypothetical:

I was always interested in fantasy and got into painting fantasy miniatures because I did not have room for model trains.

I had many of the D&D books for painting reference and even rolled/statted out characters and monsters I painted. But did not have an opportunity to play.

Was I a gamer?

Fair honest question. Give your opinion.

If you wanted to play but couldn't, I'd call you a "frustrated gamer."