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[FASERIP] Some questions

Started by Nexus, December 21, 2017, 12:15:00 PM

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Nexus

Some friends and I are messing around with the FASERIP rpg (more out of sense of nostalgia than anything) and we have some questions. Some of these may be answered in the book. We're still making our way through it. If so a simple page reference would be fine. Thanks in advance!

Do Alterate Powers that automatically include Flexibilities cost more in build points?

Is there some way to have Powers that are part of another power "go off" at the same time, For example a Strike Power with an Affliction Power defined as as venomous claws?

The Power Emotion control has the Alternate Power of Ability Boost. Is that intended to funtion in tandem with the induced emotion? That is it only effects targets the character has used their Emotion control on and only for as long as it lasts? Do they go off together as part of the same Action?

Are there any websites for discussion, errata, additional material such as maps, NPCs, etc?

How compatible is FASERIP with its parent system? Could MSH supplements like the Ultimate Powers book and Advanced Rule be used with it without too much difficulty?
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Dumarest

#1
Is this FASERIP a different game from Marvel Super Heroes FASERIP? I have no recollection of any of the terms you are using as they have no relationship to the only FASERIP I have ever heard of or played. Certainly there are no "build points" involved.

Nexus

#2
FASERIP is a retroclone of the Marvel Superheroes rpg. Its currently available for free on Drivethru. :)
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Robyo

I picked it up on LULU awhile back. I recall my group had fun making characters, but we also had some questions regarding powers and alternate powers.

And besides the decent campaign setting ideas, there's not much in the way of guidelines for the GM on how to actually run the game. I had no idea how to balance encounters.

I also tried using some older TSR Marvel sourcebooks with it, and the attributes/powers didn't seem to line up right.

Pat

Quote from: Robyo;1015595I also tried using some older TSR Marvel sourcebooks with it, and the attributes/powers didn't seem to line up right.
The powers, flexibilities, and limitations are based on those in the ICONS supplement Great Power, not on MSH. FASERIP mostly borrows the attribute names, ranks, and the universal table from MSH. Many of the other subsystems are new, or based on other games like ICONS or Golden Heroes.

Voros

I downloaded and read FASERIP but since the original system is easily available I didn't see the point. Was never a fan of creating my own superheroes actually either.

Robyo

Quote from: Pat;1015734The powers, flexibilities, and limitations are based on those in the ICONS supplement Great Power, not on MSH. FASERIP mostly borrows the attribute names, ranks, and the universal table from MSH. Many of the other subsystems are new, or based on other games like ICONS or Golden Heroes.

Well that explains it! I can understand wanting to maybe use more modern game design ideas from ICONS or whatever, but then don't market it as a FASERIP retroclone! Jeez.

Nexus

If anyone is interested, the game's author is posted on the rpg.net sister thread: Here
as Blacky the Blackball.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Pat

Quote from: Robyo;1016280Well that explains it! I can understand wanting to maybe use more modern game design ideas from ICONS or whatever, but then don't market it as a FASERIP retroclone! Jeez.
The term "retro-clone" has been badly abused. Even supposed close clones like Labyrinth Lord diverge in rather significant ways from their source material.

Nexus

#9
Quote from: Robyo;1016280Well that explains it! I can understand wanting to maybe use more modern game design ideas from ICONS or whatever, but then don't market it as a FASERIP retroclone! Jeez.

I've never had a chance to look at ICONS, what design aspects does FASERIP borrow from it?
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Pat

Quote from: Nexus;1016439I've never had a chance to look at ICONS, what design aspects does FASERIP borrow from it?
I haven't compared them side by side myself, but according to the author the power rules and power list are from ICONS, and the combat rules are cherry-picked from both MSH and ICONS.

Apparition

ICONS is "What if TSR Marvel Super-Heroes and FATE had a bastard love-child?"

FASERIP is "What if TSR Marvel Super-Heroes and ICONS had an inc. bastard love-child?"

Pat

FASERIP also includes stuff from Golden Heroes. And stuff that's completely new.

And ICONS is based as much on Marvel SAGA (the 2nd Marvel RPG, with cards) as on MSH (the 1st Marvel RPG, with Karma). Steve Kenson was a fan.

tenbones

Quote from: Nexus;1015248Some friends and I are messing around with the FASERIP rpg (more out of sense of nostalgia than anything) and we have some questions. Some of these may be answered in the book. We're still making our way through it. If so a simple page reference would be fine. Thanks in advance!

I'm going to preface my responses with the following: I could be completely full of shit.

Due to the following: 1) Not sure of the nomenclature but I'm going to approximate (i.e. translate from the side of my neck-orifice I obtained in a ninja fight) 2) Leverage my Galactus-level knowledge of the real MSH system to carry me through this entire response as if I'm some kind of "authority" on the topic as it's firmly in my wheelhouse. So onward ho! (and ignore this post if you don't find it useful)

Quote from: Nexus;1015248Do Alterate Powers that automatically include Flexibilities cost more in build points?

Chargen in MSH was always a silly affair. FASERIP's chargen I find to be equally silly since all powers are not the same in scale or ability. But as written - it doesn't say that those powers cost more build-points that I've seen.

Quote from: Nexus;1015248Is there some way to have Powers that are part of another power "go off" at the same time, For example a Strike Power with an Affliction Power defined as as venomous claws?

To my knowledge there is no rules-prohibition of powers "going off" based on specific actions. If your hand is on fire and you punch someone - you will do Strength damage and fire-damage appropriately. This is true of MSH and likely true of FASERIP (but I could be wrong - and if I'm wrong - then FASERIP is wrong)

Quote from: Nexus;1015248The Power Emotion control has the Alternate Power of Ability Boost. Is that intended to funtion in tandem with the induced emotion? That is it only effects targets the character has used their Emotion control on and only for as long as it lasts? Do they go off together as part of the same Action?

Ability Boost in FASERIP is activated immediately upon use of the power as part of the action. Ability Boost is specific on who it affects when you take the power. So yes - they go together.

Quote from: Nexus;1015248Are there any websites for discussion, errata, additional material such as maps, NPCs, etc?
None that I'm aware of. But I stick with MSH as my go-to where there is tons of support.

Quote from: Nexus;1015248How compatible is FASERIP with its parent system? Could MSH supplements like the Ultimate Powers book and Advanced Rule be used with it without too much difficulty?

I'd say 90% compatible. A lot of the mechanics could easily be ported over to MSH with little effort and vice-versa. I'd say it's easier to use MSH and port over the bits you like from FASERIP over to it - than the other way around. Ulitmate Powers Book is always to be used with a grain of salt - as it was written before MSH. I allow it with modification and err on the side of the APB.

Nexus

#14
I do like how they handled the Karma=exp issue for FASERIP, kind of elegant.

Health points being a Hit Point like  abstraction is a bit of stumbling block when it comes to description of combat results as it was back in MSH but not a deal breaker thing. I keep having the urge to stack more complexity on, much like I did with MSH but that's just taste.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."