Quote from: joriandrake;1012508meh, just wait until the main enemy in a campaign is a necromancer fey and its horde of undead pixies/brownies

I GM-ed that, the players were freaked out by the tiny beasts, were almost unable to hit the basic swarming skeletal enemies without magic targeting aid

That would also be awesome but can fairies be made undead?

Quote from: Dumarest;1012511That would also be awesome but can fairies be made undead?

That depends on GM and setting. My niece recently 'grew up' (is 14) and began to like darker stories, so I ponder the possibility of giving her a campaign in what is basically a dark Pixie Hollow with few survivors barricaded away. I remember how as little kid she loved that stuff from Disney.

I personally think if a fey, angelic being, or god can be corrupted or turned undead in a setting it has a high chance of also being possible with fairies. (although their abilities might be gone or replaced) Especially in D&D system they are dangerous as hell without proper preparations and countermeasures due to the size bonus they get. If you want a more classic setup the main enemy could be a banshee or as mentioned a necromancer fairy, otherwise the cause could be whatever from a corrupted well (connected to a demonic rift), cursed item (perhaps the fairy king's throne?), or whatever dark things live in a nearby "Evil/Dark Forest" (the classic fairytale nearby dark place which is taboo for fairies), or just mix these with things like old hags and trolls.


In fact, building a whole setting based on corrupted fairy tales (including classics and disney ones) could be a fun place to have campaigns in, just make it sure not to drift too much into Ravenloft flavor.

Quote from: Dumarest;1012511That would also be awesome but can fairies be made undead?

Anything can be made undead under the GM's power.

Quote from: Dumarest;1012511That would also be awesome but can fairies be made undead?

I don't know, but they can become cannibalistic murderous hordes.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1012403When old editions leave something for the ref they are "incomplete" or "badly written."

When new editions leave something for the ref they are "advanced" and "imaginative."

heh-heh. Baugh and co tried to pull that with d20m Gamma World. It flew about as far as youd expect it to.

Quote from: Omega;1012534heh-heh. Baugh and co tried to pull that with d20m Gamma World. It flew about as far as youd expect it to.

I missed that edition. From what I have heard it was even less well recieved by GW fandom than the 4e D&D based set.

Quote from: joriandrake;1012508meh, just wait until the main enemy in a campaign is a necromancer fey and its horde of undead pixies/brownies

I'm seeing fluttering little skeletal wings. In my mind it all looks very Guillermo del Toro in Hell Boy II.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1012403When old editions leave something for the ref they are "incomplete" or "badly written."

When new editions leave something for the ref they are "advanced" and "imaginative."

Really, it's

The game left something to the GMs imagination and I don't like this instance, the game is "incomplete" or "badly written."

and

The game left something to the GM's imagination, cool! The game is "advanced" or "imaginative"

Quote from: Bren;1012553I'm seeing fluttering little skeletal wings. In my mind it all looks very Guillermo del Toro in Hell Boy II.

Don't fairies usually have insectoid wings? They might ride skeletal birds or bats tho.

Yes usually. Something like the toothfairies in HB2 is what I had in mind.


The wings look kind of tattered or skeletal. I guess it also looks more like a leaf than an insect wing.

Quote from: Bren;1013046Yes usually. Something like the toothfairies in HB2 is what I had in mind.


The wings look kind of tattered or skeletal. I guess it also looks more like a leaf than an insect wing.

oooh yes, I watched HB2 once but totally forgot about these things

Quote from: Bren;1013046Yes usually. Something like the toothfairies in HB2 is what I had in mind.


The wings look kind of tattered or skeletal. I guess it also looks more like a leaf than an insect wing.

That thing is creepy AF! Now I have to use it in a game. Also I have to watch HB2.

HB2 was mostly shot in Hungary btw. Not that it matters much due to CGI and such.

Quote from: Bren;1011668Play a lot using social mechanics, do you?

In my experience its how I've seen a lot of players who are new at my table and received the wrong kind or rpg-education expecting social mechanics to work that way.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1013659In my experience its how I've seen a lot of players who are new at my table and received the wrong kind or rpg-education expecting social mechanics to work that way.

How do you re-educate them?