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Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Rogerd on November 03, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
Hi All

I am like many of you, a member on more than one site. Having come across this thread on another one of my stops I decided it was definitely worth sharing.

Predator on RPG Sites (http://roleplayerguild.com/showthread.php?228482-WARNING-There-Is-a-Predator-on-RPG)

As you can see it also states that said individual is on other RPG sites, so I figured this was worth sharing so that everyone is aware of the issues and the danger. I have PM'd a Mod so hopefully they will sticky this or something, and anyone who is contacted in the manner in the linked thread report it immediately and maybe between us all we can ensure that those members that have received contact know that they are not alone and something can be done.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Arduin on November 03, 2013, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: Rogerd;704928Hi All

I am like many of you, a member on more than one site. Having come across this thread on another one of my stops I decided it was definitely worth sharing.

Predator on RPG Sites (http://roleplayerguild.com/showthread.php?228482-WARNING-There-Is-a-Predator-on-RPG)

As you can see it also states that said individual is on other RPG sites, so I figured this was worth sharing so that everyone is aware of the issues and the danger. I have PM'd a Mod so hopefully they will sticky this or something, and anyone who is contacted in the manner in the linked thread report it immediately and maybe between us all we can ensure that those members that have received contact know that they are not alone and something can be done.

Interesting.  It states that this person has been ruining women's lives for years on RPG sites.  If that's the case SOMEONE has to know the real ID of this person...  A list of handles, something.  They should publish enough info to ID the perp.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Rogerd on November 03, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
Quote from: Arduin;704929Interesting.  It states that this person has been ruining women's lives for years on RPG sites.  If that's the case SOMEONE has to know the real ID of this person...  A list of handles, something.  They should publish enough info to ID the perp.

Apparently the staff on that site haven't listed them, for various legal reasons. Although if you read through the thread a couple of users do mention a couple of names. Plus the fact that an Admin has posted the thread should indicate it's seriousness. So it is best for us all to work together and ensure that everyone reports such antics should they arise, and not ignore them. Better safe than sorry I say.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Benoist on November 03, 2013, 02:18:47 PM
Moved this to the Help Desk so mods and admins can see it for what it is (relating to the site, not RPGs proper). Thanks for the heads-up.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Rogerd on November 03, 2013, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: Benoist;704932Moved this to the Help Desk so mods and admins can see it for what it is (relating to the site, not RPGs proper). Thanks for the heads-up.

Cool, no problem.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: One Horse Town on November 03, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
I pity the fool who tries that on here.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Rincewind1 on November 03, 2013, 02:55:52 PM
I think the saddest thing is targeting women on RPGs forums. It's like trying to target men at a handbag's shop.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Rogerd on November 03, 2013, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;704942I think the saddest thing is targeting women on RPGs forums. It's like trying to target men at a handbag's shop.

It depends on the site, where the link is from there are a lot of women RP'ing on there. And as mentioned in it many on that site are from broken homes etc and do it just to escape. So it isn't so much sad - as totally predatory and as such totally abhorrent behaviour.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Spinachcat on November 03, 2013, 04:52:36 PM
Sounds like more witchhunt bullshit.

"He plays to sympathies, kindness and the loneliness of young girls and women to get them to do what he wants, and when they do he proceeds to destroy their lives."

Destroys their lives???

But no police reports and no legal actions. Just destroyed lives.

"Do not think you can handle him yourself if you're being harassed by this person, let us help you."

Nope. No way a woman could possibly hit the Delete button all by herself. Them poor females don't even know how to report something that happens to them. And everyone knows that having titties nukes your ability to possibly comprehend how to use any blocking settings on a forum. Those poor, poor girls!!!
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: jeff37923 on November 03, 2013, 06:07:52 PM
Quote from: One Horse Town;704937I pity the fool who tries that on here.

I was thinking that most of the women who come here are more than capable of ripping someone a new asshole.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Ravenswing on November 03, 2013, 06:21:13 PM
Yeah, I'm with Spinachcat.  Deeds of this alleged predator?  Nope, none of those.  Identity of this alleged predator?  Nope, none of that.  Just pure vapor.  Whose word are we taking for this fellow's purported depredations, anyway?

Now I know the temptation to protect our wee innocent girlies from the Wicked Wicked Men, but eeesh.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Omega on November 03, 2013, 07:06:28 PM
Quote from: Ravenswing;704979Yeah, I'm with Spinachcat.  Deeds of this alleged predator?  Nope, none of those.  Identity of this alleged predator?  Nope, none of that.  Just pure vapor.  Whose word are we taking for this fellow's purported depredations, anyway?

Now I know the temptation to protect our wee innocent girlies from the Wicked Wicked Men, but eeesh.

I have to agree it looks odd, or even like a good cop bad cop maneuver.

But unfortunately sometimes stuff like this does happen and nothing is done about it. Sometimes because the person doing it puts up a really good front of seeming innocent or painting the victem as the villain. I've also seen admin take an "Its not our problem" or "just put it on ignore."

I've had two accounts of this happening at LARPs and really have to wonder why no one did anything?

Worse. Ive been tracking since the mid 90s a former friend who was the online equivalent of a serial emotion rapist. Draw someone in with this story of how previously they were betrayed by a former friend and how they neeeeed a loving friend like the new mark... and after getting really close -  turn on them. Then paint them as the vile betrayer to the next victem so any warnings will be met with hostility. One of his buddies defended it with the old gag of "Hey its just words. Words cant hurt you." followed by "Oh yeah. He does that to people face to face too. No big deal."

Friend of mine who used to get commission art ran into no less than two artists who would not do art for her unless she "proved" she was a "real woman" by giving out her phone number so they could "verify". Both vanished around 2001. Personally as an admin on a site I banned one player for pulling a similar stunt. Unfortunately he just moved to an online chat where the admin do not care.

As for the source of the OP. Who knows. I've seen a-lot of absolutely fucked up stunts on and off forums over the years.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: danbuter on November 03, 2013, 08:03:36 PM
It's all in some RPGNet mods mind, so it must be real. :p
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Rogerd on November 04, 2013, 04:41:22 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;704960Sounds like more witchhunt bullshit.

"He plays to sympathies, kindness and the loneliness of young girls and women to get them to do what he wants, and when they do he proceeds to destroy their lives."

Destroys their lives???

But no police reports and no legal actions. Just destroyed lives.

"Do not think you can handle him yourself if you're being harassed by this person, let us help you."

Nope. No way a woman could possibly hit the Delete button all by herself. Them poor females don't even know how to report something that happens to them. And everyone knows that having titties nukes your ability to possibly comprehend how to use any blocking settings on a forum. Those poor, poor girls!!!

Quote from: Ravenswing;704979Yeah, I'm with Spinachcat.  Deeds of this alleged predator?  Nope, none of those.  Identity of this alleged predator?  Nope, none of that.  Just pure vapor.  Whose word are we taking for this fellow's purported depredations, anyway?

Now I know the temptation to protect our wee innocent girlies from the Wicked Wicked Men, but eeesh.

These are stupid things to say. (http://roleplayerguild.com/showthread.php?228482-WARNING-There-Is-a-Predator-on-RPG&p=10002242&viewfull=1#post10002242) So yeah, judging by this last comment it is pretty freaking serious.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Warthur on November 04, 2013, 10:27:38 AM
It should probably be bourne in mind that your average RPG forum doesn't exactly budget for libel lawsuits. Unless Roleplayer Guild is a complete cesspit of moderator corruption - and I don't know it well enough to say whether it is or not - I suspect the admins there have access to a bunch more additional details they don't want to share with the public so as not to get sued (or, indeed, so as not to derail any legal or police processes that are ongoing).
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Warthur on November 04, 2013, 10:30:49 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;704942I think the saddest thing is targeting women on RPGs forums. It's like trying to target men at a handbag's shop.
WWIW, the specific forum this is emanating from seems to be for forum-based roleplay-by-post stuff, which isn't really the same thing as tabletop RPGs and tends to have a lot of women involved - often teenage girls and young women, if not younger, which is why what this person is claimed to be doing (coaxing people into video chatting with him under false pretences) is so alarming.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Ladybird on November 04, 2013, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: Warthur;705072WWIW, the specific forum this is emanating from seems to be for forum-based roleplay-by-post stuff, which isn't really the same thing as tabletop RPGs and tends to have a lot of women involved - often teenage girls and young women, if not younger, which is why what this person is claimed to be doing (coaxing people into video chatting with him under false pretences) is so alarming.

When I MUDded, I had to play a female character, because my particular class was female-only (Witch, Weatherwaxian). The first night I was on, there was a guy going through all the witches online, trying to ask them out on a date.

Adaughterable Daughter is going to get thoroughly educated on this sort of creep before I let her online on her own.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Bedrockbrendan on November 04, 2013, 04:46:46 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;704976I was thinking that most of the women who come here are more than capable of ripping someone a new asshole.

The female posters here are great. So are the men. But still if someone does engage in predatory behavior or harrasses them via PM, there is no shame or weakness in reporting that to the mods. And the same thing goes for male posters if someone is stalking and harrassing them.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Benoist on November 05, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;705202The female posters here are great. So are the men. But still if someone does engage in predatory behavior or harrasses them via PM, there is no shame or weakness in reporting that to the mods. And the same thing goes for male posters if someone is stalking and harrassing them.

Absolutely.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Kyle Aaron on November 06, 2013, 05:12:01 AM
It's unclear what dreadful things this mythic monster actually does. Sends annoying PMs? That's what the ignore list is for.

Sounds like the usual beat-up designed to keep women afraid.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: The Traveller on November 06, 2013, 04:02:06 PM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron;705674Sounds like the usual beat-up designed to keep women afraid.
Or more likely drive traffic to their site.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Panjumanju on November 06, 2013, 04:11:47 PM
This is about as useful as a newspaper story. All I got from this was: "somebody did something to someone, somewhere. Be afraid."

Sarcastically I exclaim: increased fear of strangers is exactly what the Internet needs.

//Panjumanju
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: flyingcircus on November 06, 2013, 05:43:24 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;704942I think the saddest thing is targeting women on RPGs forums. It's like trying to target men at a handbag's shop.

No shit, you would think he would maybe hit the QVC or HSN forums, I think more women would frequent those sites then RPG sites, what a duchebag.
(http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/storage/asshole.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1285769788751)
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Gizmoduck5000 on December 24, 2013, 03:36:07 AM
Quote from: Rogerd;705029So yeah, judging by this last comment it is pretty freaking serious.

I feel it's only fair to warn you that someone who had committed terrible, reprehensible crimes against unsuspecting victims just might be moving right down the street from you in the future, so watch out.

Turnabout is fairplay, afterall.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: danbuter on December 25, 2013, 04:54:45 PM
Is SomethingAwful bored today? Of all the stupid threads to get necro'd, you'd choose this one?
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Rincewind1 on December 25, 2013, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: danbuter;718491Is SomethingAwful bored today? Of all the stupid threads to get necro'd, you'd choose this one?

SA would certainly know something about pedos. (http://somethingsensitive.com/Smileys/default/stewart.png)
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: The Traveller on December 25, 2013, 05:11:29 PM
Would somebody please ban this cunt already.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Gizmoduck5000 on December 25, 2013, 06:35:10 PM
Quote from: danbuter;718491Is SomethingAwful bored today? Of all the stupid threads to get necro'd, you'd choose this one?

I don't know about the rest of them, but I am.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Rincewind1 on December 25, 2013, 07:00:24 PM
Tell us Gizmo how it felt to have a convicted pedo lord over you in his virtual fiefdom? Or don't.

Quote from: The Traveller;718494Would somebody please ban this cunt already.

Don't let the trollbyss get to you, son.
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: TristramEvans on December 27, 2013, 07:15:03 PM
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll237/bprdhellboy/Memes/null_zps6a378d89.jpg)
Title: WARNING: There Is a Predator on RPG Sites
Post by: Benoist on December 28, 2013, 01:03:59 AM
OK I'm just going to close this.