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Pundit the Plagiariser?

Started by Hairfoot, May 13, 2009, 09:24:57 AM

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Dr Rotwang!

Quote from: RPGPundit;301939Dude, everyone saw what you did there. "Mr.T"?
My name has a "J" in it.
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Quote from: HinterWelt;301922Take a break man. Sometimes it helps.

I do apologize if you took may agreement with your very important point to be sarcasm or a jibe. I assure you it was not intended as such, merely as an outstretched hand to a poster a respect and agree with.

I've been hammered over the last couple of days with all sorts of disingenuous stuff and saw it where it wasn't. No apology needed, mate.

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Quote from: Dr Rotwang!;301945My name has a "J" in it.

So, what, you're trying to claim now that he was just spewing random consonants?
You're not willing to even concede this?!

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Quote from: RPGPundit;301939Dude, everyone saw what you did there. "Mr.T"?
Everyone? Pundy - there are like 100 or so members of The RPG Haven. Hell, you probably exposed it more by your own repeating of it here than I ever could. I doubt your seriousness in caring about it when yuo do stupid shit like that..

Soon you'll reveal it and, I bet, blame me! It's great!

Quote from: RPGPundit;301939[Just admit it. You hate me. Embrace that. You'll feel better. You won't have to keep living this double-discourse life of yours, and you can complete your site's conversion into being
all about fighting with me. And then I win.
Dude...hate you? I don't even know you! I've offered to provide you with accommodations if you can get to GenCon - an offer that still holds AFAIAC.

I think you've gone off the deep end (wrt to this online personality and you're raging hate on); but that's a separate issue.

Quote from: RPGPundit;301939Or you can ignore me, and your site can be not about anything. And then I win.
Amazingly, people post about things that have nothing to do with you. You'd know that, because you've obviously spent quite a lot of time reading The RPG Haven (as it evidenced by your knwoledge of the Forum threads as well as your copying of threads like the Gonzo thread, the IPR thread, any of the various Bararians of Lemur threads - shall I go on?).

Tell you what, how 'bout you ignore us and see what you can come up with on your own. Or at least have the common courtesy to link back to the original thread from which you got the idea for your own.

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Yes. Megalomania? Solipsism?
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Dr Rotwang!

Quote from: RPGPundit;301948So, what, you're trying to claim now that he was just spewing random consonants?
You're not willing to even concede this?!

RPGPundit
Okay.

Let's assume for a moment that one of your initials is "T".  Your surname, let's say, just so the next step makes sense.  

Now someone refers to you as "Mr T".  That suggests that your last name begins with a "T".

Then, you call that out.  Now we can surmise that the revelation of the letter "T" in your surname is, in fact, correct.

This bit of knowledge, of course, means nothing.  My middle name starts with "J".  How many middle names start with "J"?  How many surnames start with "T"?
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Jesus. There's so much crap flying around on this thread!
Where's the butthurt ointment when you need it?

Pundit, come join The RPG Haven and stop copying threads to promote your Otto von Bismarck approach to cross-boards dramas. Then maybe we'll get somewhere.

Two boards are better than one. Let's just enjoy both and be done with the dramaqueen sniping.

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Ok, let me tell you how this going to pan out. You've already crossed the rubicon.There's no going back. Whether you meant to or not (and I'm sure you did, only not in a way that it would come back to bite you in the ass like this) your site is a reactionary site. Its become the anti-pundit site.

And that's all its going to have that theRPGsite won't.

And everything you say here only goes further to advance that.
I'm so confident, I'm basically telling you how I've destroyed you, because its too late. I beat you 35 minutes ago, so to say; and the moment I knew it was already over was when you posted here.

You're done. Your site might keep going for a time, we'll see how long that dog can hunt, but in the end its a one-trick-pony.

And I'm telling you all this, because really there's fuck all you can do about it now. In fact, I'm counting on the fact that explaining all this to you is only going to lead to you unintentionally accelerating your site's demise.

Thanks for making this an extra-special birthday.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Pundit in all his...ummm...glory.

Happy Birthday, old man. Good Luck!
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Quote from: flyingmice;301944THAT I don't care for, not at all. That is unethical. I must've missed that - like I said, I skip over that crap. Guys? Please explain this! Pundy-insults are one thing - he gets insulted here too, and he can take it - but violating a user's privacy is another order entirely! I know some things about Pundit - I'm his publisher, and I have to - but I've never breathed a word about any of it, not even to my wife. That's sacred, man! If either of you have threatened this, even jokingly, a sincere, complete, and public apology is in order, on both sites. There are no mitigating circumstances short of a government court order, and even then I'd think long and hard about it.

-clash

Edit: Posted while a slew of other posts were cascading down. It looks like it wasn't the site's founders but a member who said something. I left the above in place, though, because what I said is true for anyone willfully violating someone else's privacy, including my friend Ian. There are some screwed up people on the internet - just think of some of the whack jobs you have seen post here - and Pundit's pretty incendiary. The thought of some of those creeps getting Pundit's address... That scares me.
I like Pundit, for the most part.  We've had our battles in the past, but I keep coming back here because his writing is very much along the same as mine, we take many of the same influences, namely cranky, sarcastic bastards, guys like Twain, Vonnegut, Black, Bourdain.  I love that shit.

But, this is the Internet, and the Internet is a fucked up place.  For god's sake it has 4chan in it, that should be enough to scare the willies out of anyone.

I don't use my real name on the internet.  I generally refrain from sharing too much personally identifiable information on the internet.  Even on RPGnet, after all the years there, and even meeting several of the members IRL, I think the most anyone ever learned about me there was my first name and some general area of where I lived.  

My writing style, like the Pundit's, attracts ire, that's just part of the game, but I'd rather see that ire confined to the Internet, thank you very much.  As it stands, I've actually removed even some of my Internet identification information from my profile, like my IM nicks, because in the past I've been harassed on other places due to comments made on this board.  On another board I used to frequent I even had some cocksucker try to phish for my home address.  

So it is with deepest empathy that I suggest that anyone even joking about revealing personal information about another user without his consent can take a flying fuck off a short cliff over a bed of rusty shit-covered nails.
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I don´t hate the Pundit, just his banning policy.

I registered @Jim´s site before I read this thread to it´s illogical end, I just saw Jim, AM and the rest of the Raven´s Hollow crew and joined an hour ago. I only visited theHavenSite because Pundit linked to it. So please don´t take my participation as a participation in your (all of you) laughable inter-board-war. My gripes wtiht moderation here have been laid out, and I don´t have any others that need repetition on another site behind the back of anyone. So the only "out of spite" part with me joining "Haven" is, that I don´t contribute here anymore.

Bye
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Quote from: flyingmice;301944THAT I don't care for, not at all. That is unethical. I must've missed that - like I said, I skip over that crap. Guys? Please explain this! Pundy-insults are one thing - he gets insulted here too, and he can take it - but violating a user's privacy is another order entirely! I know some things about Pundit - I'm his publisher, and I have to - but I've never breathed a word about any of it, not even to my wife. That's sacred, man! If either of you have threatened this, even jokingly, a sincere, complete, and public apology is in order, on both sites. There are no mitigating circumstances short of a government court order, and even then I'd think long and hard about it.

-clash

Edit: Posted while a slew of other posts were cascading down. It looks like it wasn't the site's founders but a member who said something. I left the above in place, though, because what I said is true for anyone willfully violating someone else's privacy, including my friend Ian. There are some screwed up people on the internet - just think of some of the whack jobs you have seen post here - and Pundit's pretty incendiary. The thought of some of those creeps getting Pundit's address... That scares me.

And we have discussed it and decided to not allow that talk on the theHaven. It should be noted that Pundit's name is a matter of public record, there is about a 15 second Google search to find it. I do not offer this as an excuse but as advice to Pundit. I can find pictures of him and his full name with, as I said, about 15 seconds and google. I would be happy to show him how I do this (in private of course) but I would suggest he ask someone he trusts more...maybe Brett or Storm Bringer.

So, the short of it, we will respect Pundit's wishes and ask members not to post his personal details. As well, in general, not to post anyone's personal info.

Hopefully that is enough for you Clash.
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Quote from: Settembrini;301998I don´t hate the Pundit, just his banning policy.

I registered @Jim´s site before I read this thread to it´s illogical end, I just saw Jim, AM and the rest of the Raven´s Hollow crew and joined an hour ago. I only visited theHavenSite because Pundit linked to it. So please don´t take my participation as a participation in your (all of you) laughable inter-board-war. My gripes wtiht moderation here have been laid out, and I don´t have any others that need repetition on another site behind the back of anyone. So the only "out of spite" part with me joining "Haven" is, that I don´t contribute here anymore.

Bye

Your statement is illogical, Sett. Have you seen THEIR banning policies?

Apparently, the scheme for many of these people was this:
1. Cry foul whenever the Pundit makes an administrative ruling, accusing him of being a human rights violator and the worst kind of tyrant.
2. start their own site.
3. Decide that its perfectly ok for them to have an autocratic moderation policy, because all that shit about free speech and human rights isn't something they really believe in, it was all just to try to make me look bad.

Are you one of those people, Sett? If you think the moderation policy here is too harsh, what the fuck are you doing over there?

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Koltar

#58
On the scale of all things....

How important is this really?


In general, I think Pundit has been generally fair in most of the arguments I've seen.

As far as plagiarizing a thread - thats part of the reason I sometimes copy & paste my own threads to 2 or 3 forums - that way nobody beats me to it.A little over a year ago someone on the TPB lifted a thread I started wholesale and put it in their RPG section - and tried to pretend it was theirs . Doesn't help that was after I was banned.

In any of these cases of thread duplication the two versions of the threads will go differently, usually with the forum that has more members onboard giving a better variety of responses. (hopefully and likely)

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#59
Quote from: RPGPundit;302009Your statement is illogical, Sett. Have you seen THEIR banning policies?

Are you one of those people, Sett? If you think the moderation policy here is too harsh, what the fuck are you doing over there?

RPGPundit

Well, in fact I don´t know their banning policies. I just read the "readme", and that sounded exactly the same as here, so I was giving the benefit of the doubt. I think it´s pretty clear were I stand, and that I won´t tolerae certain things. If Jim wants to speak on his moderation policy, that can be cleared up pretty fast, I guess.

EDIT: Fuck it, don´t drag me into this, both of you. I posted exactly because I don´t want any part of it. I´ll see how mod policy is at haven for myself, and act accordingly. Plese have your inter-board-war alone.

ADD:

That´s what I read

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