It has been brought to my attention that there is a thread on Storygames (the SECRET part of Storygames, which can't be accessed publically) talking all about strategies to get your storygames more attention by negative threads on forums like this one.

Apparently, several of the people involved in the current "commentaries" threads, "Q&A" etc that have sprouted up were people involved in that thread.

I take this just as seriously if not more than any declaration of a "board war", and it changes my perspective on those threads.

The question is what to do about it.

Also, to Andyk and the Storygames people: if you asswipes thought your "secret" wall would protect you from me finding out about this, you clearly underestimated me, you fucking goons. But that's just par for the course for you people, isn't it?

RPGPundit

With free speech comes the distinct possibility that someone will say something that pisses you off.  So these Story Games people might be stirring the shit pot for the purposes of driving interest in what they say and do.  And this is different from you stirring the shit pot to drive interest how, again?

Listen, if this is really their strategy it is amazingly impolite and *will* bite them in the ass.  If this is really just them pulling shit then just point it out and let us as a community judge them and their motives.  


TGA

Then it sounds like those threads should be shuffled off to somewhere else on the forums or maybe some special dediting done to them so we know which ones are the suspicious threads.

Something like "Not an Honest thread start" or "StoryGames Propaganda suspected"  attached to the title of those threads... maybe ?


- Ed C.

Quote from: RPGPunditI take this just as seriously if not more than any declaration of a "board war", and it changes my perspective on those threads.

Uh ... well ... you shouldn't.

'sa humorous thread, with a dose of good solid "get a grip, criticism ain't gonna kill anybody" thrown in for good measure.

Basically, some folks were saying "Oh me, oh my, I don't feel right complaining publically about someone's game, because it might hurt their sales."  Ben countered that by saying "Uh ... no.  It'll help their sales, so ... don't sweat it.  In fact, please critique my games!  Here!  I'll give you a guide to doing so!"

Now Ben is absolutely right.  This is part of the wonderful win-win of posting in a positive way:  If someone gleefully agrees with you, it's good publicity.  If someone passionately disagrees with you, it's good publicity.  This has been known for ... well ... quite some time.  Certainly I know it, and I revel in it.  It's not meant to be news ... just a reminder for folks who weren't applying the well-known lesson.

"Sabotage" ... heh.  You think everything's about you.  That's funny.

Er, are you talking about that "guide to talking bad about my games"? Because that was pretty darn obviously written with a tongue in cheek.

That isn't what I heard, Tony.  And since you guys make Storygames' important threads invisible to people who aren't in the club, that means I have to assume the worst.

And what I've heard is that the thread discusses specific strategies about how to subvert other sites in order to cause controversy and draw attention to Storygames.

As such, I've changed my mind about what I previously thought were "borderline" cases.

From now on, any thread that I think is an attempt by the Storygames people to SPAM the Main forum with stuff about Storygames will be sent to Off-Topic.

"Luke Crane" is not an RPG. Neither is "TonyLB".  Therefore, these Q&A threads and their commentaries? To Off-Topic they go.

And Sett's thread about the Siege or whatever the fuck he's ranting about now?
Sent to off-topic as well.

I'm sick of this shit.  From now on, the Main RPG forum is for talking about actual shit in RPGs.

RPGPundit

Seconded.

Quote from: The Good AssyrianWith free speech comes the distinct possibility that someone will say something that pisses you off.  So these Story Games people might be stirring the shit pot for the purposes of driving interest in what they say and do.  And this is different from you stirring the shit pot to drive interest how, again?

Because it is an organized intent to SPAM this site, organized from a secret section of their site. That's pretty fucking different than one guy posting something annoying here.

QuoteListen, if this is really their strategy it is amazingly impolite and *will* bite them in the ass.  If this is really just them pulling shit then just point it out and let us as a community judge them and their motives.  

You're welcome to judge these threads all you like, in Off-topic where these threads belong.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPunditBecause it is an organized intent to SPAM this site, organized from a secret section of their site.

Here's everything that the thread says about this site: "Where to complain? Talking bad is promotion, so I'd prefer you'd do it on high-traffic sites. It's also going to get you a better reception on places like RPGnet and the RPGsite which aren't swarming knee-deep with fans of the game... Talking points: swine swine swine. Rants work well here." It's a serious conspiracy, all right.

QuoteI'm sick of this shit. From now on, the Main RPG forum is for talking about actual shit in RPGs.

Rock on.  There's something I can agree on.

The post in question

Factually, it's in public.

Also, if you can read that without realizing that it's tongue-in-cheek ... you are a very special sort of person.

Since you all seem to have Story Games accounts, I'm happy to talk about it over there. Or over here.

edit: stupid non-HTML allowing board.

The Tony Q&A should be moved to.

EDIT: It has been done, thanks.

This actually hurts to write...But close this thread.

That may or may not be the thread in question. I was told there was a thread specifically talking about theRPGsite, so who the fuck can say? Only people who are in Storygames could know for sure, couldn't they?

Sorry, if you have a problem with this, bring it up with AndyK. Storygamers can't have their cake and eat it too: if they want a secret little place to bitch out Regular Roleplayers, they don't get to be free of suspicion later.

In any case, that thread, the one you linked to Ben, includes such wonderful treats as someone recommending that you make a bunch of sockpuppets to flood a forum; and it includes our own TonyLB talking about how any thread where he himself is the center of discussion augments sales of his game (Capes, I suppose), and he said this just before the start of the "Q&A:TONYLB" thread on here... coincidence?

Fuck that. My ruling stands. Go complain about it in your secret hideout.

RPGPundit

Jesus fucking christ, Paranoid much, Pundit?

You know, if you want, I'll gladly repost that Sotrygames thread in its entirety just so you can see how badly you are overreacting.

But then again, you'd only see that as spam.