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Author Topic: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!  (Read 5549 times)

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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #105 on: August 03, 2021, 10:45:21 PM »
Such a terrible liar- no wait, I said you cucks have nothing in store.
Then MarxyBugle managed to increase his dissonance.
Maybe you can answer for him given that xe's afraid to tackle basic biological facts?

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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #106 on: August 04, 2021, 12:00:22 AM »
Such a terrible liar- no wait, I said you cucks have nothing in store.
Then MarxyBugle managed to increase his dissonance.
Maybe you can answer for him given that xe's afraid to tackle basic biological facts?
2/10 bait. Rookie.

He has a Cha of 3

I would say Int and Wis of 3 as well...

On Topic:  Whatever happened to the fat, jolly Kevin Smith?  This can't be the same guy who brought us Clerks, Mallrats, & Dogma.
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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #107 on: August 04, 2021, 06:06:19 AM »
Maybe, just maybe, it's going to be trully She-Maam and the Wolkesters of the Universities.

Maybe, just maybe Adam's replacement is the stronk, independent, stunning & brave womixn of colour.



To try to drag this thread kicking and screaming back on topic.

I don't mind a woman of color being a character in MOTU. I do mind the terrible way they do it. [/obvious]

Word on the street says that Netflix is re-tinkering the remaining episodes after the show fell out the top ten after a couple of days (Netflix doesn't publish viewers' numbers, but you can see the top ten most seen in your territory).

I will not hold by breath. However, I disagree with those that say "The 'Top Ten', by not being supported by factual numbers, can be anything that Netflix wants." Even if this is true, "pulling" MOTU from the list after less than a week would still send a clear message.
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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #108 on: August 04, 2021, 06:31:16 AM »
On Topic:  Whatever happened to the fat, jolly Kevin Smith?  This can't be the same guy who brought us Clerks, Mallrats, & Dogma.

Some people see their best creative days behind them and are unable to recapture that spark. Others can return to form but after a creative dry spell. No one can be Scorsese or Tarantino, and no one is to blame for this.

This, however, would justify a bad MOTU. The problem here is that Kevin Smith destroyed the premise of the show, lied through his teeth for months after the fact was leaked, and assaulted the fans with swear words when unusual questions like "Why He-Man isn't in the 'He-Man' show?" were made. It was a mini-The Last Jedi all over again.

[Admittedly, Netflix lied too, during the propaganda phase of the launch.]

And from what I hear the show is bad, too. As usual, there is no reason for something that doesn't respect the source material to be bad. Kubrick did it all the time ("Doctor Strangelove", "Barry Lyndon", "The Shining"...) It could have been a disappointing He-Man show but a good Teela one. These days, however, this never happens.

Edit: The fact that Smith still dresses like a slacker from the 1990s is, IMHO, the proof that he is unable to grow out from that period of his life. It would be interesting to hear what Kevin Smith has to say today, but I fear that he never reached "today": he is still trapped in the times when he created his best works.
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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #109 on: August 04, 2021, 03:12:00 PM »
Maybe, just maybe, it's going to be trully She-Maam and the Wolkesters of the Universities.

Maybe, just maybe Adam's replacement is the stronk, independent, stunning & brave womixn of colour.



To try to drag this thread kicking and screaming back on topic.

I don't mind a woman of color being a character in MOTU. I do mind the terrible way they do it. [/obvious]

Word on the street says that Netflix is re-tinkering the remaining episodes after the show fell out the top ten after a couple of days (Netflix doesn't publish viewers' numbers, but you can see the top ten most seen in your territory).

I will not hold by breath. However, I disagree with those that say "The 'Top Ten', by not being supported by factual numbers, can be anything that Netflix wants." Even if this is true, "pulling" MOTU from the list after less than a week would still send a clear message.

These "piss off the fans for publicity" stunts seem to work for the first while, but then they're stuck with an unpopular show that the fans have abandoned after the outrage settles.
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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #110 on: August 04, 2021, 04:33:35 PM »
I'll throw in Japanese swordswoman Tomoe Gozen as another historical warrior woman.

(Wikipedia casts doubt on whether she was a real person or a fictional character, but my college Japanese History course treated her as a historical person, so that's good enough for me.)

Apart from that, burn thread burn. :)

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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #111 on: August 04, 2021, 04:52:44 PM »
I'll throw in Japanese swordswoman Tomoe Gozen as another historical warrior woman.

(Wikipedia casts doubt on whether she was a real person or a fictional character, but my college Japanese History course treated her as a historical person, so that's good enough for me.)

Apart from that, burn thread burn. :)

The battle of Aizu had the Joshitai (girl's army) of about 18 samurai women fighting alongside the men. This was as late as the 1868 so very much so historical persons.

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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #112 on: August 05, 2021, 01:33:33 AM »
I'm starting to think the dude is a plant fishing for tasty quotes to display on TBP.

That was my very first thought.

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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #113 on: August 07, 2021, 02:56:41 PM »
The new She-Ra and Kevin Smith's He-Man both suck donkey balls. The original She-Ra and He-Man shows from the 1980's sucked too. There, I said it.

Kevin Smith hasn't made a good movie since Clerks II and maybe Red State.
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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #114 on: August 07, 2021, 03:05:04 PM »
Kevin Smith hasn't made a good movie since Clerks II and maybe Red State.
Fixed that for you.  Smith has made a career out of hype and nerd cred.  Too bad he didn't focus on skill or excellence...

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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #115 on: August 07, 2021, 04:26:35 PM »
Kevin Smith hasn't made a good movie since Clerks II and maybe Red State.
Fixed that for you.  Smith has made a career out of hype and nerd cred.  Too bad he didn't focus on skill or excellence...

Hard disagree. His early View Askew films were genuinely funny lowbrow comedies and Red State was okay, but the problem with Kevin Smith is that marijuana fried his brain and he started massively believing his own hype
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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #116 on: August 09, 2021, 08:37:09 AM »
I'd pick Chasing Amy as his peak, but yeah, he's past his prime as a screenwriter/director.

Still, it's not like he hasn't tried new things, or attempted to branch out. He just hasn't had much success working outside of his View Askew footprint, and the Clerks stuff is worn pretty thin by now. The actors are in their 40s, but they are still written like 20-year-olds.

If he really wants to reinvent himself, I wonder how he'd do as a late night host.

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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #117 on: August 11, 2021, 02:26:02 AM »
The new She-Ra and Kevin Smith's He-Man both suck donkey balls. The original She-Ra and He-Man shows from the 1980's sucked too. There, I said it.

Kevin Smith hasn't made a good movie since Clerks II and maybe Red State.

I think one can make a pretty good case than in absolute quality Filmation sucked. The whole idea of the company was to do beyond the Ruby-Spears/70s Hana-Barbera levels of dog shit cheapness and give the Jay Ward folks a run for their money. Filmation did do some Live Action Stuff apart from their animation. The thing is, the one time they spent real money for the Pirates of Dark Water it seems like it killed the company which is why Mattel had to bring in a new animator for their sequel show where He-Man had a pony tail and Skeletor was on a new planet in the distant future hanging out with some mutant scofflaws.

Edit : NVM Pirates of DarkWater was a DIC + Hana-Babera joint. Filmation must have imploded all on their own. Maybe they imploded after they brought back their Original Ghostbusters as a cartoon.



Not everything Filmation did was awful. (See Freedom Force) That lady on Jason of Star Command was quite attractive.





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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #118 on: August 11, 2021, 09:16:23 AM »
I think one can make a pretty good case than in absolute quality Filmation sucked. The whole idea of the company was to do beyond the Ruby-Spears/70s Hana-Barbera levels of dog shit cheapness and give the Jay Ward folks a run for their money. Filmation did do some Live Action Stuff apart from their animation. The thing is, the one time they spent real money for the Pirates of Dark Water it seems like it killed the company which is why Mattel had to bring in a new animator for their sequel show where He-Man had a pony tail and Skeletor was on a new planet in the distant future hanging out with some mutant scofflaws.

Edit : NVM Pirates of DarkWater was a DIC + Hana-Babera joint. Filmation must have imploded all on their own. Maybe they imploded after they brought back their Original Ghostbusters as a cartoon.

  Filmation did collapse after the launch of the Ghostbusters cartoon and BraveStarr, although I'm not up on the details of why. They did make a proposal for what became the New Adventures of He-Man, but they'd either collapsed beforehand or it wasn't picked up in time to save the company.

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Re: You better not dislike Kevin Smith's MotU Revelation at RPG.Net!
« Reply #119 on: August 11, 2021, 09:38:40 AM »
The new She-Ra and Kevin Smith's He-Man both suck donkey balls. The original She-Ra and He-Man shows from the 1980's sucked too. There, I said it.

Kevin Smith hasn't made a good movie since Clerks II and maybe Red State.

I think one can make a pretty good case than in absolute quality Filmation sucked. The whole idea of the company was to do beyond the Ruby-Spears/70s Hana-Barbera levels of dog shit cheapness and give the Jay Ward folks a run for their money. Filmation did do some Live Action Stuff apart from their animation. The thing is, the one time they spent real money for the Pirates of Dark Water it seems like it killed the company which is why Mattel had to bring in a new animator for their sequel show where He-Man had a pony tail and Skeletor was on a new planet in the distant future hanging out with some mutant scofflaws.

Edit : NVM Pirates of DarkWater was a DIC + Hana-Babera joint. Filmation must have imploded all on their own. Maybe they imploded after they brought back their Original Ghostbusters as a cartoon.



Not everything Filmation did was awful. (See Freedom Force) That lady on Jason of Star Command was quite attractive.


Is that Jimmy fucking Doohan on the left in that pic?