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« on: September 20, 2006, 05:24:10 PM »
A Dark Glimpse at  the Darkest Underbelly of Swine RPGs
or RPGPundit's Wraeththu Rant
 
Today I give kudos to JRients who has written a thurough review of "Wraeththu", an RPG in serious competition for "worst roleplaying game of all time":  according to jrients, it doesn't quite make it to that depth, but it is a horrifically bad game; based on a series of horrifically bad novels, and written by a guy who isn't so much a Swine as he is a piglet, a wanna-be Rein┬ĚHagen that no one could take seriously.
 
Now, those of you who are unfamiliar with Wraeththu will find the following summary hard to believe, but I swear by the Magic Deer that what I'm about to tell you is absolute truth. Really. I couldn't make this shit up.
 
The story behind the RPG is about the Wraeththu, a race of gay androgynes that evolve from regular humanity and reproduce by raping teenage boys, which either kills them or transforms them into another Wraeththu, who then goes around raping more teen boys. In the novels, the Wraeththu eventually wipe out humanity.  And these are the characters you're expected to play.
 
Oh, and I have yet to mention the really fun part: the Wraeththu are all beautiful goths with superstrength and magic powers, who's penises are shaped like flowers and shoot acid.  And no, this isn't exageration. I mean it. Literally. Their penises are shaped like flowers and shoot acid.  That's not a metaphor or a secret code, it means exactly what it says. In Wraeththu you play a goth with a flower-shaped penis who shoots acid and rapes teenage boys.
 
The system is basically a fantasy heartbreaker, something the author "Gabby" (yea, I know, it just doesn't have the "i am a dark lord of the night" ring to it that something like Rein┬ĚHagen or even Justin Achilli have) had actually designed 15 years ago, apparently as a kind of variant to D&D. Its the total opposite of a unified system, from what I've read in Jrient's blog. He has a thurough summary of those rules there, so I won't bother going into detail.
 
Except to mention how Gabby had gone on RPG.net in a now infamous thread a while back proclaiming that Wraeththu would be the most innovative new system of all time.
 
Besides trying to have the general swine attitude and pretentiousness, the creators of this game had made several wierd claims over the course of the creation of Wraeththu, including that White Wolf's Vampire was directly inspired by Storm Constantine (the authoress of the very and justifiably obscure Wraeththu novels), and not Anne Rice. Or that Storm Constantine was thanked in the credits to the first edition of Vampire, which she was not.

So, in other words, bold-faced lies.
 
None of that matters much, what does matter is that in the game you're playing gay pedarast-rapist supergoths WITH ACID-SHOOTING FLOWER SHAPED PENISES.
 
I mean, I can certainly see how any gaming party composed of normal well-balanced human beings will just love this game and thank goodness that Gabby and Storm Constantine have finally brought us an RPG that allows us to run campaigns for years and years of teenage boy-raping flower-penised fun.
 
Aw, just go read his review:
http://jrients.blogspot.com/2005/07/wraeththu-report.html
 
Its good, but lacks the righteous bile this game deserves.  Really, this game and everyone connected to it deserves a vicious sack beating.
 
Actually, I think the industry as a whole would be a much better place if many people in it received vicious sack beatings.
 
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2006, 05:36:33 PM »
Wraeththu is what you get when a 13 year old girl holds on to a sex fantasy a little too long.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2006, 06:21:33 PM »
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The story behind the RPG is about the Wraeththu, a race of gay androgynes that evolve from regular humanity and reproduce by raping teenage boys, which either kills them or transforms them into another Wraeththu, who then goes around raping more teen boys.
...And so once again it's time to correct that little misconception: at least in the original novels, the Wraeththu reproduce either through blood transfusions with humans or simply by growing from pearl-like eggs. The vast majority of them do not go around raping anyone, and in fact will regard any deviants who are found guilty of such crimes with nothing short of pure horror, as consensual sexuality is sacred to them.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2006, 03:41:54 AM »
I wouldn't call this a 'swine' game since pretty much everyone universally loathes it whatever their affiliation.  I think it's just a case of an obscure fandom cross pollinating with an RPer and producing some odd offspring.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2006, 07:12:08 AM »
I found this review to be fair and balanced, and much better than the hate filled tirade a mod posted on rpg.net in which he exposed himself as a hate filled bigot  towards overweight people who, I hope, gets his ass pulped by an overweight person someday.

Given the nature of the wraethu game and it's subject matter I feel this reviewer acted with style, professionalism, intelligence and fairness. Wraethu can be quite shocking, especially when it encourages players to descibe having wraethu sex with each other, and this writer managed not to let the shock overcome his reason and professionalism.

I will try to find other reviews from this reviewer, and pay heed to them due to his obvious professionalism and because he, unlike Fox news, is truly "fair and balanced".
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2006, 08:13:41 AM »
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Wraethu can be quite shocking, especially when it encourages players to descibe having wraethu sex with each other, and this writer managed not to let the shock overcome his reason and professionalism.
To be fair, that particular subject is something that any game based on Wraeththu would have to address in one way or another. Going by the books, we are talking about beings that quite literally need sex with others of their own kind just as humans need food.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2006, 11:15:10 AM »
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To be fair, that particular subject is something that any game based on Wraeththu would have to address in one way or another. Going by the books, we are talking about beings that quite literally need sex with others of their own kind just as humans need food.


Grim... that's TWICE in this thread that you've defended Wraeththu...
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do you... I mean... do you LIKE Wraeththu?
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2006, 11:18:30 AM »
Oh wait.. its two different grins.  That just makes the whole thing even creepier... :eyecrazy:

Its like there's a secret cult of Wraeththu fans out there that use certain keywords to identify each other, one of them aparently being the word "grim" in their username.

I mean, sweet christ, if this is true we have to find these fuckers, bring them out and throw them to the fucking lions! And right quick before they take us out from within!

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2006, 11:47:11 AM »
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do you... I mean... do you LIKE Wraeththu?
Well, it might be more accurate to say that Wraeththu itself doesn't bother me nearly as much as the immense amount of vitriolic misinformation about the novels which tends to crop up in every single thread on this topic; and while Gabby's game by all accounts fails in every respect, I can see how the setting could serve as a basis for a decent RPG. Besides, all the "hur hur, flower penis" jokes grew tiresome awfully quickly.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2006, 11:51:16 AM »
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Besides, all the "hur hur, flower penis" jokes grew tiresome awfully quickly.


I disagree, sir.
 

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2006, 11:54:52 AM »
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I disagree, sir.
I almost wish that just for the sake of variety someone would read Imajica by Clive Barker and start going "hur hur, dove genitals"...
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2006, 12:29:32 PM »
On Wraeththu Genitalia

As I understand it, they are dual purpose. Closed up they act like a penis. Opened up they act like the opening to the vagina. Beyond that I haven't the foggiest.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2006, 12:43:56 PM »
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Closed up they act like a penis. Opened up they act like the opening to the vagina.
More or less: both the Wraeththu and the Kamagrian are hermaphrodites.
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2006, 02:57:18 PM »
The level of discourse about Wraethu genitalia on this thread is simply too cunty for words.  What's next, critical discussion of the Star Wars doujinshi where Obi-Wan is buggered and impregnated by Qui-Gon Jin  and then marries Darth Maul, who *knows* that Obi-Wan's carrying another man's child but is compelled by the purity of love to raise the bastard as his own?

Holy shit, people.  This is a slippery slope that leads to twenty-page threads about lesbian-only fuck and meditation parties in the WORLD OF DARKNESS.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2006, 03:37:47 PM »
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...lesbian-only fuck and meditation parties in the WORLD OF DARKNESS.


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