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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2006, 11:40:54 AM »
I mean, even the Wraeththu word for "rape", pelki, is the most hideous one in the entire language, and many of them desperately deny that such a thing could ever exist because surely no one could bring themselves to do something that vile. Most of them see themselves as spiritually elevated beings, after all, and above deliberate cruelty. You can call them arrogant and aloof, sure, but they are not sadistic monsters.

(Although of course there are barbarians among some of the tribes, no one is claiming that there's anything honourable about those brutes.)
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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2006, 12:04:26 PM »
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I have read quite a few different and alien forms of sex and sexuality.  Some if it has been juvenile sex-fantasies and the authors and readers have readily admitted to the fact.  Why this is different and the writer/defenders cannot come to terms with the facts is beyond me.
I've never made any claims of the trilogies being worthy works of fine literature. But what is beyond me is your insistence on labeling them as "juvenile sex-fantasies" when judging by your railing against rape and pedophilia these "facts" of yours don't even fit in with the content of the books.
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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2006, 12:14:47 PM »
Penises are inherently funny

Penises that blossum out into vaginas are at the creepy end of funny.  It's not quite "shitting dicknipples" territory, but it's getting there
 

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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2006, 12:24:38 PM »
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Penises that blossum out into vaginas are at the creepy end of funny.
Hum. Consider for a moment Pie'Oh'Pah from Imajica: a mystif (the third sex, in a way) whose anatomy is a "function of the spectator's desire" so that it can be either male or female depending on whichever its company is attracted to, or in its natural state appear to have something much like a bright and fluttering dove between its legs. Now, what is the decisive difference between this condition and that of the Wraeththu?
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2006, 12:29:22 PM »
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I have written a number of stories and racial descriptions that depicted different forms of genitalia and sexual proclivities.  I have read quite a few different and alien forms of sex and sexuality.  Some if it has been juvenile sex-fantasies and the authors and readers have readily admitted to the fact.  Why this is different and the writer/defenders cannot come to terms with the facts is beyond me.


Well, now you intrigue me.  In your stories, what were the beings with different forms of genitalia like?  What were the stories like (esp. the non-juvenile ones)?  Have such beings ever appeared in your games?

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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2006, 12:45:27 PM »
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Hum. Consider for a moment Pie'Oh'Pah from Imajica: a mystif (the third sex, in a way) whose anatomy is a "function of the spectator's desire" so that it can be either male or female depending on whichever its company is attracted to, or in its natural state appear to have something much like a bright and fluttering dove between its legs. Now, what is the decisive difference between this condition and that of the Wraeththu?


I've never read Imajica (/wiki's).  

Firstly I don't think I could get past this character's name

Secondly "bright and fluttering dove".  Is that a quote? In what way is it like a "bright and fluttering dove"? Are we talking beak, feathers, talons, etc?  Does it have a pair of beady little eyes starting at you while you're trying to go down on it? Or is the metaphor totally and ridiculously ludicrous?

It's not creepy in the Gigeresque manner of the flower penis, but, from your description, is rather silly
 

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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2006, 12:46:47 PM »
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Have such beings ever appeared in your games?
Incidentally, lately I've been looking through some notes I once wrote down for a little game inspired by Pimeästä Maasta by Maarit Verronen. The novel is set in a world where everyone is asexual, the distinction between male and female simply doesn't exist, and the children are born half-formed from the special soil whenever any two individuals have touched each other there during a specific time.
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2006, 12:52:27 PM »
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Firstly I don't think I could get past this character's name.
What, you have something against Pie?
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Secondly "bright and fluttering dove".  Is that a quote?
Not quite verbatim, but close: I left the book in Lappeenranta so I don't have it at hand right now. Folding and unfolding wings are what Gentle thinks of when he first sees the mystif as it really is, during their wedding night.
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2006, 01:20:40 PM »
I'll reserve judgement on the mystif, but I think I can explain why the flower penis thing is creepy, with reference to HR Giger's "Facehugger"

The Facehugger is a vulva that transforms into a penis and if it has sex with you it, it will kill you

The Wraethu have a penis that also transforms into a vulva and, if it has sex with you, it will kill you

See?
 

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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2006, 01:28:14 PM »
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See?
Yup, that's a plausible interpretation. Then again, the difference between the two is that unlike the Alien, the Wraeththu (with a few exceptions) aren't out to kill you.
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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2006, 02:55:54 PM »
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Well, now you intrigue me.  In your stories, what were the beings with different forms of genitalia like?  What were the stories like (esp. the non-juvenile ones)?  Have such beings ever appeared in your games?


One of my stories was called "The Embrace."  It centered around a race who had a series of genitalia from the center of the chest to the crotch.  They would "embrace" to breed and the level of contact that was allowed between the partners (who both had penetrating and receiving apparatus) determined how "intimate" the connection.  A superficial pair of lovers may only have allowed a few minor penetrations and receptions while lifelong lovers would use every connection possible.  

Another race that I developed were male, female and trimale (who hasn't done something like this?) ;).  The male and female could breed, but not produce offspring without the addition of the trimale.  A Trimale could carry the seed from a male for a long period of time before implanting it within a female.  The society that developed was interesting in that the only truly "free" people were the trimales.  Males and females had their highly organized and politicized and socially striated structures and the Trimales moved in and out of society.

Something I didn't write, but that I thought was quite well done, is the Centuari sexuality written by JMS from Babylon 5 where the males have 9 penises and the females have 9 vaginas.  The number of penetrations by the male (extremely long and tentacular) penises determines how perfunctory or intimate the encounter is.  Political marriages may require a specific number of penetrations on a scheduled basis, but a mistress may allow complete penetration in a happy, cavorting style.  I thought it was very well done.

My most favorite odd-genitalia race centered around the union between a male and female whose soul focus was upon their "progeny."  The female's genitalia, when pressed into the mud of the swamps would create a shape that defined the icon for their race.  An egg would be deposited in each depression and then the male would guard over the eggs until they were able to fend for themselves.  I can't say much more at this time, but the shape of the female genitalia determined the course of their race and culture in quite a number of ways.  It was the conflict over the control of how the shape was used and who chose that use that defined their culture (it was a metaphor for men controlling the details of a mother and her off-spring).
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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2006, 03:56:50 PM »
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How about a race of magical ponies that have young girls who do nothing but brush their manes and tails?


Actually, that one could be the setup for some really freaky sort of horror story/adventure.

"My Little Pony"; only the ponies in question are wierd psychic entities from some other universe that use their enchanting cuteness to kidnap and enslave young girls to be their semi-willing caretakers.  The PCs/heros have to go to "ponyland" to try to save these girls...

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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2006, 04:07:49 PM »
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"My Little Pony"; only the ponies in question are wierd psychic entities from some other universe that use their enchanting cuteness to kidnap and enslave young girls to be their semi-willing caretakers.  The PCs/heros have to go to "ponyland" to try to save these girls...


You are a sad, sad little man, Pundit.  :D
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« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2006, 09:41:33 PM »
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One of my stories was called "The Embrace."  It centered around a race who had a series of genitalia from the center of the chest to the crotch.  They would "embrace" to breed and the level of contact that was allowed between the partners (who both had penetrating and receiving apparatus) determined how "intimate" the connection.  A superficial pair of lovers may only have allowed a few minor penetrations and receptions while lifelong lovers would use every connection possible.  

Another race that I developed were male, female and trimale (who hasn't done something like this?) ;).  The male and female could breed, but not produce offspring without the addition of the trimale.  A Trimale could carry the seed from a male for a long period of time before implanting it within a female.  The society that developed was interesting in that the only truly "free" people were the trimales.  Males and females had their highly organized and politicized and socially striated structures and the Trimales moved in and out of society.

Something I didn't write, but that I thought was quite well done, is the Centuari sexuality written by JMS from Babylon 5 where the males have 9 penises and the females have 9 vaginas.  The number of penetrations by the male (extremely long and tentacular) penises determines how perfunctory or intimate the encounter is.  Political marriages may require a specific number of penetrations on a scheduled basis, but a mistress may allow complete penetration in a happy, cavorting style.  I thought it was very well done.

My most favorite odd-genitalia race centered around the union between a male and female whose soul focus was upon their "progeny."  The female's genitalia, when pressed into the mud of the swamps would create a shape that defined the icon for their race.  An egg would be deposited in each depression and then the male would guard over the eggs until they were able to fend for themselves.  I can't say much more at this time, but the shape of the female genitalia determined the course of their race and culture in quite a number of ways.  It was the conflict over the control of how the shape was used and who chose that use that defined their culture (it was a metaphor for men controlling the details of a mother and her off-spring).


The race from babylon 5 with the long tentacle weiners were the centauri and they had 6, not nine.

As to weird sexual creatures, ever read the Gaea trilogy by John Varley? The titanides were centaurs who look femal and had 3 sets of genitals, each had a rear vagina dna penis like a horse, but had a forward one that was either male or female.
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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2006, 10:01:46 PM »
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You are a sad, sad little man, Pundit.  :D


I like how all of you are talking about wierd aliens with multiple penile appendages and other bizzare sex organs, yet the guy who talks about evil ponies is the "sad" one...

Yup...well.. there's another sentence I never in my wildest dreams imagined I'd ever be writing...

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