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Trond:
For myself, I remember a discussion on RPG.net about sex differences and abilities around 2010-2011. I was just pointing out basic biology but of course it went to shit. The reaction of some people was so perplexing to me that I still remember who it was: primarily David Prokopetz, Logicninja and to a less degree Argent, were sort of "guarding" the thread and making sure nobody stepped out of line with the "poor womenz". :D

So, when did you notice that something had "snapped" among the RPG social justice crowd?

Ratman_tf:
I started to pay attention after Elevatorgate.
I think the tipping point for TBP was when Cessna stated that rpg.net was not going to become a "safe space". And then, of course, it did.

2010-2011 seems to track in multiple communities. For whatever reasons, the number and influence of SJW types seems to have reached some kind of critical mass at that time.

jhkim:
When I first joined this forum in 2006, one of the recurring topics was Pundit ranting against the Blue Rose RPG. I'd been in a bunch of contentious RPG discussion online, but that was the first big one that felt political.

From my point of view, gaming arguments previously were most often between story-game vs simulationist, which wasn't considered political at the time. Even Pundit's early rants against "The Swine" and story games seemed more over esthetics than politics. But the criticism of Blue Rose seemed more political, as it centered on the supposed collectivist philosophy.

Over the next decade, it seems like a slow slide that politics became more and more central.

oggsmash:
  I really didnt ever notice it, most of the people who I would see hanging out all the time at the LFGS seemed to be to the left of center.   Honestly I was left on most issues as well, but then around 2010 it sort of started to be just one or two issues would solidly plant you in the right or left.   I noticed more and more calls for video games to have more "representation" with no regard as to good or bad.  I probably didnt notice it much at all until I got thread blocked years and years ago over at the big purple for having the audacity to ask how exactly Gary Gygax was a horrible sexist for implying that men are stronger than women.   The responses, and the tone of them made me scratch my head a bit.   

    So around 2014ish I noticed a ramp up of sorts, or at least that was where TBP seemed to get a bit more overt in the political, and of course 2016 it went bonkers over there.  I have a feeling the majority of people in table top rpg games likely skew left.   I know when I was younger (a teen in the 80's) I was the only jock involved in any table top RPGs at all, and the majority of people playing certainly were left, but honestly, I did not care then at all.   Maybe being the people who got pushed into lockers is where the SJW stuff come from?   I do not know.  I still do not much care, and I am willing to tolerate an artist having a left worldview, up to a point.  When that view starts telling me how I MUST think, act, and feel, we start having trouble.

Trond:

--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 09, 2021, 09:14:23 AM ---  I really didnt ever notice it, most of the people who I would see hanging out all the time at the LFGS seemed to be to the left of center.   Honestly I was left on most issues as well, but then around 2010 it sort of started to be just one or two issues would solidly plant you in the right or left.   I noticed more and more calls for video games to have more "representation" with no regard as to good or bad.  I probably didnt notice it much at all until I got thread blocked years and years ago over at the big purple for having the audacity to ask how exactly Gary Gygax was a horrible sexist for implying that men are stronger than women.   The responses, and the tone of them made me scratch my head a bit.   
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Oh yes, they really hate pointing out obvious differences between men and women.
   
--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 09, 2021, 09:14:23 AM --- So around 2014ish I noticed a ramp up of sorts, or at least that was where TBP seemed to get a bit more overt in the political, and of course 2016 it went bonkers over there.  I have a feeling the majority of people in table top rpg games likely skew left.   I know when I was younger (a teen in the 80's) I was the only jock involved in any table top RPGs at all, and the majority of people playing certainly were left, but honestly, I did not care then at all.   Maybe being the people who got pushed into lockers is where the SJW stuff come from?   I do not know. 
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Perhaps. Remember the "tough guys for Trump" thing, and many SJWs HATE "tough guys" with a passion. I think this might be part of the reason for the visceral and irrational reaction some people have to Proud Boys.
--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 09, 2021, 09:14:23 AM --- I still do not much care, and I am willing to tolerate an artist having a left worldview, up to a point.  When that view starts telling me how I MUST think, act, and feel, we start having trouble.

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Same here. Particularly when it comes to entertainment. I keep saying, IT'S ENTERTAINMENT for God's sake. It has probably lead to less violence over time (less boredom etc). We watch movies about serial killers all the time, and somehow we can't handle a "damsel in distress" anymore?

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